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<blockquote data-quote="ok2bclever" data-source="post: 54868"><p>gman, read slower. </p><p> </p><p>I am the one saying all currently viable companies contribute for their workers at their negotiated levels and all defunct companies contributed at their negotiated levels for every dime of retirement credit <em>their</em> workers earned as well. </p><p> </p><p>You are the one saying UPS is financing all those defunct company workers and that <strong>is</strong> inaccurate. </p><p> </p><p>I cannot find any breakdown of just UPS contributions., so I'd be interested in seeing the source of your 53% statement to verify the accuracy or not and understand how it was derived. </p><p> </p><p>Sure I have opinions, but primarily I am interested in the truth instead of just listening to you and such blathering unfounded statements about how UPS is paying for all those "nogoodnicks". </p><p> </p><p>If any of it is true point me to the actual statistics or admit you are just parroting the popular rumors what you have heard that sound good to us UPS guys and gals as I would love to be part of the UPS bandwagon if it's true. </p><p> </p><p>Your statement about because I am a clerk I am not a Teamster just shows even with thirty four years your parochialism. </p><p> </p><p>Perhaps in your corner of UPS where the company is fair and wonderful and wouldn't do anything wrong to a good little worker the clerks are not union or Teamsters, but where I am they are and have been since at least 1973. </p><p> </p><p>I am glad for you that you have worked in an area where the local management has been good and fair for three decades. </p><p> </p><p>Count yourself lucky and unusual. </p><p> </p><p>Yes, there are some here as well who could use a stamp for their grievances and that does get tiresome, but every month there are new faces as well and those are what it's all about for me. </p><p> </p><p>So your 90% is BS as is your 13 billion dollar guess. </p><p> </p><p>That figure is considerably low and out of date thank goodness. </p><p> </p><p>As of December 31, 2004 the CSPF had a asset balance of 18,720,781,000.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ok2bclever, post: 54868"] gman, read slower. I am the one saying all currently viable companies contribute for their workers at their negotiated levels and all defunct companies contributed at their negotiated levels for every dime of retirement credit [i]their[/i] workers earned as well. You are the one saying UPS is financing all those defunct company workers and that [b]is[/b] inaccurate. I cannot find any breakdown of just UPS contributions., so I'd be interested in seeing the source of your 53% statement to verify the accuracy or not and understand how it was derived. Sure I have opinions, but primarily I am interested in the truth instead of just listening to you and such blathering unfounded statements about how UPS is paying for all those "nogoodnicks". If any of it is true point me to the actual statistics or admit you are just parroting the popular rumors what you have heard that sound good to us UPS guys and gals as I would love to be part of the UPS bandwagon if it's true. Your statement about because I am a clerk I am not a Teamster just shows even with thirty four years your parochialism. Perhaps in your corner of UPS where the company is fair and wonderful and wouldn't do anything wrong to a good little worker the clerks are not union or Teamsters, but where I am they are and have been since at least 1973. I am glad for you that you have worked in an area where the local management has been good and fair for three decades. Count yourself lucky and unusual. Yes, there are some here as well who could use a stamp for their grievances and that does get tiresome, but every month there are new faces as well and those are what it's all about for me. So your 90% is BS as is your 13 billion dollar guess. That figure is considerably low and out of date thank goodness. As of December 31, 2004 the CSPF had a asset balance of 18,720,781,000. [/QUOTE]
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