I agree wkmac, they will never make it that clear in a Monday morning PCM.
It would be great if UPS came through for us and put their money where their mouth is on how much concern and respect they have for their employees, but in the meantime I will continue to save and invest as much of my money on my own.
gman, 34 years here as well.
I don't consider UPS a beast, just a very efficient corporation and all that that entails.
It means they will make a profit (not a bad or evil thing, in fact it is necessary) and that they will continue to attempt to increase both the level and percentage of profit at all costs, ad nauseum, including at the employees expense (where does that stop, it doesn't and that is where the problems are in the real world).
You don't really think that six second adjustment to every stop was truly an adjustment for something they overlooked a decade or so ago do you?!
There is nothing "evil" in the principles of the corporate world regarding making a profit, it's just cold hard facts and if the facts say there is a way to take more out of the worker's hide, it's coming out.
If they find holding the line on hiring more drivers will up the profit margin, you are going to work more hours.
Same with halfing the workforce, if there is profit in it, it would be done tomorrow.
Not evil, just not necessarily beneficial to you, your family or others.
Of course, at 34 years your numero uno thing does make you and I pretty safe for most of the negative things that can happen.
Actually, I am far safer than you.
As a clerk I get not one minute of overtime as the corporate policy forbids overtime currently to clerks and porters where I am at.
That is fine with me financially, I live within my means unlike most of the workforce.
It grates on me a bit as far as my old fashion "service" philosophies when I have to walk away from a line of growing customers because "it's time".
I question your 50% statement, sounds like a rabbit out of a hat figure like your ridiculous 90% one?
Mind supplying a factual source for that?
"We are pauing for all the companies that have gone backrupt and are no longer paying anything into the fund."
Nope, that is an inaccurate statement, although a very popular one here.
Any worker from another company that is actually getting any money from the fund had a company paying for every dime that was supposed to be contributed to get those benefits for every minute of credit he/she earned, period.
UPS is incurring future shared liabilities with all other viable companyies for plans that has been underfunded, but they are not paying for all the retirees whose companies have gone out of business at this time.
That two working for every one retired figure has nothing to do with "UPS versus the world", but is the current demographics of the USA and guess what, it's going to get worse with or without UPS.
And that 90% of those that need union help are their own worse enemy, now who is really the naive one.