ralph nader on expectations, the american dream, corporate welfare

[rickyb]

ralph nader on expectations, the american dream, corporate welfare.

im 2/3rds into it. regarding expectations he compares america to every other developed country. also goes into tax payer money funding large parts of the economy.

this is part 2 of a massive 10 hour lecture ralph did on how you can change america.

 

[Catatonic]

He always reminded me of Pat Paulsen who ran for President as well.

 

[Babagounj]

For anyone under the age of 50 , you'll have to google to understand this thread .

 

[FrigidFTSup]

He always reminded me of Pat Paulsen who ran for President as well.

That guy just looks depressed.

 

[bottomups]

For anyone under the age of 50 , you'll have to google to understand this thread .

I'm north of 50. I have actually voted for Nader for president.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

That guy just looks depressed.

He was actually a very funny comedian who appeared several times on the Smother Brothers show. His was a much more subtle comedy (think Stephen Wright) which would not appeal to today's milleniels, who prefer to have everything spoon fed to them.

 

[oldngray]

A few people even voted for Paulsen. He finished 2nd in a few states a couple of times.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

He was actually a very funny comedian who appeared several times on the Smother Brothers show. His was a much more subtle comedy (think Stephen Wright) which would not appeal to today's milleniels, who prefer to have everything spoon fed to them.

 

[Catatonic]

I'm north of 50. I have actually voted for Nader for president.

Some things you shouldn't admit too.

just saying

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Some things you shouldn't admit too.

just saying

What about McGovern?

 

[Catatonic]

What about McGovern?

I turned 18 in October of that year (1972) off at college so I did not vote.
I had zero political interest at that time.

Sorry, I honestly don't know anything about him or his views.

 

[bottomups]

Some things you shouldn't admit too.

just saying

I also voted for Perot.
If he/she ain't a politician, they have my vote.

 

[olroadbeech]

Netflix had an excellent doc on nader. not sure if its still there.

I voted for him.

 

[Catatonic]

I also voted for Perot.
If he/she ain't a politician, they have my vote.

I voted for Perot the first time as well.
I vote Libertarian if on ballot and probably 70% Repub if not and 30% Democrat if I vote on that position.
Many times, if there is no Libertarian, I don't vote.

That's all I got to say about that.

 

[Sportello]

I turned 18 in October of that year (1972) off at college so I did not vote.
I had zero political interest at that time.

Sorry, I honestly don't know anything about him or his views.

I was able to vote in the 1972 Presidential election for the first time, as well. I was also able to legally have a drink in a bar. I remember walking in the rain to vote that evening. It was a cold, miserable night, but I could finally vote.

I walked into the voting hall, a protestant church at the time, I think, and proudly cast my vote for Gus Hall. I then proceeded to the nearby Belgium bar for a nice ale and some mussels.

Good times.

 

[olroadbeech]

the problem with Nader was he wasn't devious enough to be a politician.

 

[rickyb]

im reading david cay johnstons free lunch which is on all the ways corporations get subsidies from the government.

theres some major outdoors enthusiasts store and in 3 years since it went public, it got more money in subsidies than it did in profits lol. i think the number was $290 million in 3 years. it got one subsidy from a small town which apparently amounted to the whole government budget for 10 years.

 

[newfie]

im reading david cay johnstons free lunch which is on all the ways corporations get subsidies from the government.

theres some major outdoors enthusiasts store and in 3 years since it went public, it got more money in subsidies than it did in profits lol. i think the number was $290 million in 3 years. it got one subsidy from a small town which apparently amounted to the whole government budget for 10 years.

a subsidy as in a monetary award or did you mean a tax break in which they were required to pay less into the government coffers as an incentive for expanding the business and creating additional jobs?

 

[rickyb]

a subsidy as in a monetary award or did you mean a tax break in which they were required to pay less into the government coffers as an incentive for expanding the business and creating additional jobs?

go look it up!

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

a subsidy as in a monetary award or did you mean a tax break in which they were required to pay less into the government coffers as an incentive for expanding the business and creating additional jobs?

What's the difference?