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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 786746" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Is this about rape and male attitude or just an excuse to slam Oprah? Not that I give a rat's arse about Oprah!</p><p> </p><p>Would you slam Oprah if she had endorsed McCain instead?</p><p> </p><p>BTW: One serious reason why the male attitude is as it is has to do with all the monotheistic religions who portray women as 2nd class and property. Other religions and societies do this as well but in the west and near east, it's at the heart of the 3 major belief system. </p><p> </p><p>Prior to the Roman conquests of Europe, many of Europes tribal societies had a co-equal structure to it and in some cases women were held in very high esteem. Early Roman Britian had the Iceni Tribal Queen Boudica is just one example and she even lead her people into battle against the Romans. </p><p> </p><p>One of the reasons among many that the southern France Carthars were destroyed by the State/Church alliance was that they held women as co-equals in society and not subservient. Around the time of christ, the Essenes who were gnostics are also believed to have held such views of women and many suggest that John the Baptist and even Christ were in fact Essenes themselves and thus giving some leverage to the many Mary Magdalene stories.</p><p> </p><p>Besides, the old testament itself allows a man to rape a virgin and then pay a set price, and the woman is his for life. Don't believe me? Go look it up and read it yourself!</p><p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+22%3A28-29&version=KJV" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">Deuteronomy 22:28-29 </span></a></p><p> </p><p>No wonder girls weren't allowed to pick their own husbands because if they weren't betrothed early, the pervert up the street could knock out a quickie with the young honey down the block, pay the silver and he's got another arm trophy!</p><p> </p><p>What again was your complaint about South Africa?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 786746, member: 2189"] Is this about rape and male attitude or just an excuse to slam Oprah? Not that I give a rat's arse about Oprah! Would you slam Oprah if she had endorsed McCain instead? BTW: One serious reason why the male attitude is as it is has to do with all the monotheistic religions who portray women as 2nd class and property. Other religions and societies do this as well but in the west and near east, it's at the heart of the 3 major belief system. Prior to the Roman conquests of Europe, many of Europes tribal societies had a co-equal structure to it and in some cases women were held in very high esteem. Early Roman Britian had the Iceni Tribal Queen Boudica is just one example and she even lead her people into battle against the Romans. One of the reasons among many that the southern France Carthars were destroyed by the State/Church alliance was that they held women as co-equals in society and not subservient. Around the time of christ, the Essenes who were gnostics are also believed to have held such views of women and many suggest that John the Baptist and even Christ were in fact Essenes themselves and thus giving some leverage to the many Mary Magdalene stories. Besides, the old testament itself allows a man to rape a virgin and then pay a set price, and the woman is his for life. Don't believe me? Go look it up and read it yourself! [URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+22%3A28-29&version=KJV"][COLOR=red]Deuteronomy 22:28-29 [/COLOR][/URL] No wonder girls weren't allowed to pick their own husbands because if they weren't betrothed early, the pervert up the street could knock out a quickie with the young honey down the block, pay the silver and he's got another arm trophy! What again was your complaint about South Africa? [/QUOTE]
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