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<blockquote data-quote="FracusBrown" data-source="post: 747894" data-attributes="member: 29360"><p>Facts</p><p> </p><p>Opportunity - 20 years ago the company was growing fast. They didn't even serve the entire US. The number of management people needed grew as the company grew. The ratio of management to non-management was very high. Center, divisions, and districts were small. Getting promoted was almost a natural occurrence. </p><p> </p><p>Competition - There was no real competition other than the USPS.</p><p> </p><p>Quotas - they are alive and thriving. Regardless of qualifications the company is required to maintain the proper ratios. The most qualified on the minority list is guaranteed to get promoted and guarnateed to stay promoted, even if there are many more qualified on the non-minority list.</p><p> </p><p>Pay - new sups start at less than an hourly makes. Managers make slightly more, but pay a higher portion of their own benefits and have a lousy retirement plan compared to the hourly plans.</p><p> </p><p>MIP - once a guaranteed get rich plan for management is gone. MIP is arbitrarily regulated. Stock prices have been flat for more than 10 years. The current MIP doesn't even make up for the reduction of retirement benefits a supervisor receives. Half of the MIP is restricted. If you leave for any reason other than retirement you stand to throw away half of 5 years MIP. </p><p> </p><p>Conclusion - The competition is much stronger, job is more difficult, opportunity for promotions is almost eliminated, compensation is significantly reduced, MIP is less valuable than cash. Skill, ability and education requirements are higher than in the past. You won't get rich in management and you probably won't last 20-30 years.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FracusBrown, post: 747894, member: 29360"] Facts Opportunity - 20 years ago the company was growing fast. They didn't even serve the entire US. The number of management people needed grew as the company grew. The ratio of management to non-management was very high. Center, divisions, and districts were small. Getting promoted was almost a natural occurrence. Competition - There was no real competition other than the USPS. Quotas - they are alive and thriving. Regardless of qualifications the company is required to maintain the proper ratios. The most qualified on the minority list is guaranteed to get promoted and guarnateed to stay promoted, even if there are many more qualified on the non-minority list. Pay - new sups start at less than an hourly makes. Managers make slightly more, but pay a higher portion of their own benefits and have a lousy retirement plan compared to the hourly plans. MIP - once a guaranteed get rich plan for management is gone. MIP is arbitrarily regulated. Stock prices have been flat for more than 10 years. The current MIP doesn't even make up for the reduction of retirement benefits a supervisor receives. Half of the MIP is restricted. If you leave for any reason other than retirement you stand to throw away half of 5 years MIP. Conclusion - The competition is much stronger, job is more difficult, opportunity for promotions is almost eliminated, compensation is significantly reduced, MIP is less valuable than cash. Skill, ability and education requirements are higher than in the past. You won't get rich in management and you probably won't last 20-30 years. [/QUOTE]
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