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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 2826566" data-attributes="member: 2189">Before one jumps off the cliff with that &quot;fact&quot; it should be first noted the source.&nbsp; That came from a 2016&#039; report published in the British Medical Journal Lancet and in the report itself, it stated that a rise in cancer was seen and thus the findings &quot;extrapolated&quot; to reach their summation.&nbsp; The Lancet report uses the number 500k and that number represents premature cancer deaths globally and not to any specific country or region.&nbsp; Although those &quot;estimated&quot; numbers were broken down and listed within the published report.The study period &quot;The Great Recession&quot; was for the period of the recession itself from Dec. 2007&#039; to June 2009&#039;.&nbsp; In the EU, there were 160,000 deaths estimated and in the United States, there were estimated to be 18,000 premature cancer deaths caused by lack of affordable health care.&nbsp; For the last several decades in the United States, we have annually about 1.5 million cases of cancer (all types) and about 500k deaths from cancer annually per the CDC and the American Cancer Society. On average, we sadly lose about 41k people per month to cancer and during the Great Recession, of those 41k, less than 1000 of those deaths had a connection to a lack of affordable healthcare, using the Lancet Study figures. We can argue too many still but we also need to look at this in perspective too.Per the SEER Cancer Statistics Review 1975-2013, cancer deaths for the period 2004 to 2013 (including the period known as The Great Recession) fell by 13%.&nbsp; Some are framing this Lancet report as a denouncing of the current state of medical insurance in the US (I think it has problems too) as opposed to the Universal models (also problematic for me) such as among the European Union.&nbsp;&nbsp; One can argue the advantages and disadvantages of either model but it is worth noting the cancer death rate per capita for each one.&nbsp; In the European Union, the cancer death rate per capita is 265 per 100k and in the US, the cancer death rate per capita is 171 per 100k.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 2826566, member: 2189"] Before one jumps off the cliff with that "fact" it should be first noted the source. That came from a 2016' report published in the British Medical Journal Lancet and in the report itself, it stated that a rise in cancer was seen and thus the findings "extrapolated" to reach their summation. The Lancet report uses the number 500k and that number represents premature cancer deaths globally and not to any specific country or region. Although those "estimated" numbers were broken down and listed within the published report. The study period "The Great Recession" was for the period of the recession itself from Dec. 2007' to June 2009'. In the EU, there were 160,000 deaths estimated and in the United States, there were estimated to be 18,000 premature cancer deaths caused by lack of affordable health care. For the last several decades in the United States, we have annually about 1.5 million cases of cancer (all types) and about 500k deaths from cancer annually per the CDC and the American Cancer Society. On average, we sadly lose about 41k people per month to cancer and during the Great Recession, of those 41k, less than 1000 of those deaths had a connection to a lack of affordable healthcare, using the Lancet Study figures. We can argue too many still but we also need to look at this in perspective too. Per the SEER Cancer Statistics Review 1975-2013, cancer deaths for the period 2004 to 2013 (including the period known as The Great Recession) fell by 13%. Some are framing this Lancet report as a denouncing of the current state of medical insurance in the US (I think it has problems too) as opposed to the Universal models (also problematic for me) such as among the European Union. One can argue the advantages and disadvantages of either model but it is worth noting the cancer death rate per capita for each one. In the European Union, the cancer death rate per capita is 265 per 100k and in the US, the cancer death rate per capita is 171 per 100k. [/QUOTE]

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