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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 2968794" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>No I&#039;m going to live in countries that haven&#039;t gone insane with their medical care.&nbsp; Pay as I go.&nbsp; What hasn&#039;t been addressed in our system by anyone is medicine is seen by those that practice it, support it, administer it, etc as a vehicle to riches.&nbsp; The system is designed to remove as much wealth as possible from the elderly before they die.&nbsp; That wasn&#039;t addressed by the ACA or anyone else.&nbsp; In many countries doctors make a decent living without gouging.&nbsp; If one needs to see a doctor they pay $5 or so to see him.&nbsp; If they need to stay overnight at a hospital they might pay $20.&nbsp; Granted things cost more in the States but shouldn&#039;t cost the disproportionate amounts we pay here.&nbsp; And I&#039;m not talking about socialized medicine.&nbsp; They&#039;ve got that to a degree here in Mexico but it&#039;s overwhelmingly the poor who use it.&nbsp; Doctors in private practice here just don&#039;t gouge.&nbsp; It&#039;s not acceptable behavior in their society and that&#039;s true in many cultures.&nbsp; Our&#039;s is based on greed.&nbsp; It&#039;s the doctors, administrators, insurers, and even nurses, and other medical workers.&nbsp; There&#039;s money to be made in medicine because the group that needs it most spent a lifetime accumulating wealth and are desperate to remain healthy.&nbsp; OK but it&#039;ll cost you.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 2968794, member: 24302"] No I'm going to live in countries that haven't gone insane with their medical care. Pay as I go. What hasn't been addressed in our system by anyone is medicine is seen by those that practice it, support it, administer it, etc as a vehicle to riches. The system is designed to remove as much wealth as possible from the elderly before they die. That wasn't addressed by the ACA or anyone else. In many countries doctors make a decent living without gouging. If one needs to see a doctor they pay $5 or so to see him. If they need to stay overnight at a hospital they might pay $20. Granted things cost more in the States but shouldn't cost the disproportionate amounts we pay here. And I'm not talking about socialized medicine. They've got that to a degree here in Mexico but it's overwhelmingly the poor who use it. Doctors in private practice here just don't gouge. It's not acceptable behavior in their society and that's true in many cultures. Our's is based on greed. It's the doctors, administrators, insurers, and even nurses, and other medical workers. There's money to be made in medicine because the group that needs it most spent a lifetime accumulating wealth and are desperate to remain healthy. OK but it'll cost you. [/QUOTE]

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