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<blockquote data-quote="AssistantSanta" data-source="post: 919160" data-attributes="member: 38503"><p>There are merits and demerits to everything but what you said in the post I replied to is factually incorrect nonetheless. Closed shop has been illegal since 1947. <em>" its the <strong>closed shop</strong> status that some states have put in place that<strong> force the new employee to join the union regardless of whether they want to or not."</strong></em></p><p></p><p>I strongly oppose tricking people into signing up for something through misinformation. It should not be an automatic opt-in that requires research to figure out how to get yourself out. </p><p></p><p>The choice to join or not join should be made crystal clear as organ donor opt-in on your driver's license. </p><p>Each individual has the right to make an informed decision for themselves. By that, I mean they should be given "would you like to become a member of the union yes - no" not an automatic enrollment that you have to take the time to research how to resign and write a letter to do so. I don't believe in trickery like this. This is like AOL free trial that requires a credit card number and assume you like it unless you cancel. </p><p></p><p>Each employee should have ready access to what joining/not joining means in their respective local. </p><p></p><p>For example, not joining retains same wage/benefits rights offered to the same collective group, but loss of say in union matters. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, of course not. Here in non RTW state, not paying dues is not an option. While I agree there are pros, there are cons too. Job security for existing high seniority employees mean advancement and entry hold backs for new hires. To believe in seniority driven system or not is a personal opinion but everyone is entitled to accurate information such as the fact that employment is not conditional to union membership.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AssistantSanta, post: 919160, member: 38503"] There are merits and demerits to everything but what you said in the post I replied to is factually incorrect nonetheless. Closed shop has been illegal since 1947. [I]" its the [B]closed shop[/B] status that some states have put in place that[B] force the new employee to join the union regardless of whether they want to or not."[/B][/I] I strongly oppose tricking people into signing up for something through misinformation. It should not be an automatic opt-in that requires research to figure out how to get yourself out. The choice to join or not join should be made crystal clear as organ donor opt-in on your driver's license. Each individual has the right to make an informed decision for themselves. By that, I mean they should be given "would you like to become a member of the union yes - no" not an automatic enrollment that you have to take the time to research how to resign and write a letter to do so. I don't believe in trickery like this. This is like AOL free trial that requires a credit card number and assume you like it unless you cancel. Each employee should have ready access to what joining/not joining means in their respective local. For example, not joining retains same wage/benefits rights offered to the same collective group, but loss of say in union matters. No, of course not. Here in non RTW state, not paying dues is not an option. While I agree there are pros, there are cons too. Job security for existing high seniority employees mean advancement and entry hold backs for new hires. To believe in seniority driven system or not is a personal opinion but everyone is entitled to accurate information such as the fact that employment is not conditional to union membership. [/QUOTE]
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