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<blockquote data-quote="BMWMC" data-source="post: 5068596" data-attributes="member: 37461"><p>What planet do you come from? Here on this planet you don't interpret the law to fit your political social prejudices.</p><p></p><p>The law has two sentences. #2 is subordinate to #1. Meaning #1 must proceeds before you can go to #2. Not the other way around.</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">"A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is <strong>committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge</strong>.</li> </ol><p> 2. "If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion".</p><p></p><p>At no time did any of these vigilantes identify any probable cause. They had no direct knowledge of a crime. They never contacted the owner to ask if this person had permission to enter the property. He could have been a worker who forgot his tools or was given permission to get a drink of water by the owner. They <strong>"assumed"</strong> a crime was committed and assumptions are not considered reasonable grounds for an armed and violent intervention to restrict the freedom and liberty of another person. The victim wasn't fleeing because he has been seen before by the defendants jogging in the area. "Fleeing" also assumes that he was at one time confined by the defendants, which he was not.</p><p><strong><em>Imagine someone stopping you in the Walmart parking lot because they believe your a wanted felon and whose activities "looked" suspicious. Should they be allowed to use deadly force on you to have you comply with their capture and custody? </em></strong></p><p></p><p>The first sentences definition of "in his presences or within his immediate knowledge" is in no way fulfilled here by the defendants. They acted impulsively, prejudicially and violently because he was a black man in a mostly, if not, exclusively, white neighborhood.</p><p></p><p>Just like these two racist, who see black people in their white neighborhood and assume they need to shoot them.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.browncafe.com/community/attachments/download-1-jpeg.359746/" alt="download (1).jpeg" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BMWMC, post: 5068596, member: 37461"] What planet do you come from? Here on this planet you don't interpret the law to fit your political social prejudices. The law has two sentences. #2 is subordinate to #1. Meaning #1 must proceeds before you can go to #2. Not the other way around. [LIST=1] [*]"A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is [B]committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge[/B]. [/LIST] 2. "If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion". At no time did any of these vigilantes identify any probable cause. They had no direct knowledge of a crime. They never contacted the owner to ask if this person had permission to enter the property. He could have been a worker who forgot his tools or was given permission to get a drink of water by the owner. They [B]"assumed"[/B] a crime was committed and assumptions are not considered reasonable grounds for an armed and violent intervention to restrict the freedom and liberty of another person. The victim wasn't fleeing because he has been seen before by the defendants jogging in the area. "Fleeing" also assumes that he was at one time confined by the defendants, which he was not. [B][I]Imagine someone stopping you in the Walmart parking lot because they believe your a wanted felon and whose activities "looked" suspicious. Should they be allowed to use deadly force on you to have you comply with their capture and custody? [/I][/B] The first sentences definition of "in his presences or within his immediate knowledge" is in no way fulfilled here by the defendants. They acted impulsively, prejudicially and violently because he was a black man in a mostly, if not, exclusively, white neighborhood. Just like these two racist, who see black people in their white neighborhood and assume they need to shoot them. [IMG alt="download (1).jpeg"]https://www.browncafe.com/community/attachments/download-1-jpeg.359746/[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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