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<blockquote data-quote="Serf" data-source="post: 1281695" data-attributes="member: 50254"><p>Honestly, I appreciate your thoughts. Finally, A member who can think.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1) They are outdated and antiquated. Unions are like type writers. Outdated, weak, and self serving. From the mid-1930s to about the mid-'70s, U.S. unions prospered because of several favorable forces. During the Depression, workers were fired up by abysmal working conditions and poor pay. After World War II, they were agitated by a sense of postwar entitlement in the context of the great wealth they were creating. Workers were restless and militant, struggles were seen as universally beneficial, and they enjoyed broad public support. Cluster friend#cks in the sense of strikes and violence.</p><p>2)Yes, Inflation is a product of monetary policy. And this policy sucks because the Government in reckless. Unions negotiate fair wages? No, they negotiate the highest wages. And it's rampant. Nobody would sign up for the boss getting all the extra profit. But that is not reality. They are boss's for a reason. And you are a worker for a reason. </p><p>3) Low wage workers from around the Globe are trying to get into the US simply because our "ghetto is nicer then your ghetto." Our minimum wage in a monthly sum is still several times higher then what they would be making back home. </p><p>4)Favoritism, cronyism, bigotry, existed long before unionism and is much more prevalent in non-union industries. That is innate human nature. It exists in big business, the Military, school, prison, everywhere. Unionism is now like a "good guy mafia." Thanks for the 40 hour work week and the benefits and vacation.</p><p>5) Essential services. Ronald Reagan’s presidency. Reagan fired more than 11,000 air traffic controllers after they staged a strike against the federal government. Reagan’s reaction to the PATCO (Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization) strike was widely portrayed as harsh — not only did Reagan fire the controllers, he banned the government from ever rehiring them. The “ban for life” was rescinded by the Clinton administration, but not until 12 years after the strike. But the public solidly supported Reagan’s action. Fully 59% of Americans approved of the way he was handling the issue, according to a Gallup poll conducted a few days after he fired the controllers. </p><p>6) Union jobs, even teacher jobs, are by their nature “dead end” positions.= Nonsense.</p><p>7) In pure speculation, the us vs them can exist in anything. Union or non union. But regardless of affiliation your reputation willl proceed you. Or the impression you make.</p><p>8) You don't have the freedom to not apply. If your company is union, your dues are part of the conditions of employment. As far as adulterers not being allowed in the Catholic Church, I see your point. But if you violated the establishments rules you lose freedom. Much like if you violate society's laws you lose freedom and go to prison. </p><p>9) Unions focus on the needs of the members at the expense of non-union members & society. PLAIN And SIMPLE. Teamsters salivate to get into FedEx. Not to negotiate higher wages for the "working man". But they see it as 300,000 new people to sign up and pay union dues. The company has to pay employees more, therefore has to charge more at the societies/ consumers expense. </p><p>10) You see negotiations in your shop everyday. But do you see innovation? Unions say negotiation, companies say compromise. The fact is that their probably is a more efficient way the majority of the time. But by the union be a type writer not an IPad, here comes the outdated, self serving thing again.</p><p>11) Corporations have tried to harm the nation’s free market system. And our sad Government has bailed them out. </p><p>12)People with money invest in well run companies. Yes the "pump and dump" and the Fed artificially inflating the stock are all common place. It's all manipulated anf has not been a accurate sign of what's really going on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Serf, post: 1281695, member: 50254"] Honestly, I appreciate your thoughts. Finally, A member who can think. 1) They are outdated and antiquated. Unions are like type writers. Outdated, weak, and self serving. From the mid-1930s to about the mid-'70s, U.S. unions prospered because of several favorable forces. During the Depression, workers were fired up by abysmal working conditions and poor pay. After World War II, they were agitated by a sense of postwar entitlement in the context of the great wealth they were creating. Workers were restless and militant, struggles were seen as universally beneficial, and they enjoyed broad public support. Cluster friend#cks in the sense of strikes and violence. 2)Yes, Inflation is a product of monetary policy. And this policy sucks because the Government in reckless. Unions negotiate fair wages? No, they negotiate the highest wages. And it's rampant. Nobody would sign up for the boss getting all the extra profit. But that is not reality. They are boss's for a reason. And you are a worker for a reason. 3) Low wage workers from around the Globe are trying to get into the US simply because our "ghetto is nicer then your ghetto." Our minimum wage in a monthly sum is still several times higher then what they would be making back home. 4)Favoritism, cronyism, bigotry, existed long before unionism and is much more prevalent in non-union industries. That is innate human nature. It exists in big business, the Military, school, prison, everywhere. Unionism is now like a "good guy mafia." Thanks for the 40 hour work week and the benefits and vacation. 5) Essential services. Ronald Reagan’s presidency. Reagan fired more than 11,000 air traffic controllers after they staged a strike against the federal government. Reagan’s reaction to the PATCO (Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization) strike was widely portrayed as harsh — not only did Reagan fire the controllers, he banned the government from ever rehiring them. The “ban for life” was rescinded by the Clinton administration, but not until 12 years after the strike. But the public solidly supported Reagan’s action. Fully 59% of Americans approved of the way he was handling the issue, according to a Gallup poll conducted a few days after he fired the controllers. 6) Union jobs, even teacher jobs, are by their nature “dead end” positions.= Nonsense. 7) In pure speculation, the us vs them can exist in anything. Union or non union. But regardless of affiliation your reputation willl proceed you. Or the impression you make. 8) You don't have the freedom to not apply. If your company is union, your dues are part of the conditions of employment. As far as adulterers not being allowed in the Catholic Church, I see your point. But if you violated the establishments rules you lose freedom. Much like if you violate society's laws you lose freedom and go to prison. 9) Unions focus on the needs of the members at the expense of non-union members & society. PLAIN And SIMPLE. Teamsters salivate to get into FedEx. Not to negotiate higher wages for the "working man". But they see it as 300,000 new people to sign up and pay union dues. The company has to pay employees more, therefore has to charge more at the societies/ consumers expense. 10) You see negotiations in your shop everyday. But do you see innovation? Unions say negotiation, companies say compromise. The fact is that their probably is a more efficient way the majority of the time. But by the union be a type writer not an IPad, here comes the outdated, self serving thing again. 11) Corporations have tried to harm the nation’s free market system. And our sad Government has bailed them out. 12)People with money invest in well run companies. Yes the "pump and dump" and the Fed artificially inflating the stock are all common place. It's all manipulated anf has not been a accurate sign of what's really going on. [/QUOTE]
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