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Ron Carey Speaks On How Hoffa Is Trying To Sell Us Out
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<blockquote data-quote="Why We Off?" data-source="post: 262559"><p>Hey Tie-goof .... did you get your ballot yet? I didn't think so. I am curious as to why you feel the need to "sell " us this contract. I would NEVER accept the companies first offer! Thats what negotiations are all about, they have until August to get it right. Tell me whats so good about this contract if you're not in the Central States? The yearly raises are merely OK, but totally crap if you divide them in half. How much are they saving each Xmas with this? I'm full-time, but why the increases in part-timers progression and probation? Again, how much are they saving by making workers wait an additional 6 months more before they reach top rate? The 6 billion buyout is great for those in the CS that are close to retirement, but what about a part-timer with 29 yrs. to go? Whats his retirement look like? Retention of new hires is a joke, and who can blame them for not staying .... and lest you think this unimportant, just remember that reguardless of all those fancy numbers you throw out, pensions are for the most part just pyramid schemes.</p><p> So lets just call this contract what it is ..... UPS gets out of a failing pension fund, gets deferred raises, and longer progression times for full timers ...... and the Teamsters basically get to save face by saying that they saved the CS fund and patting themselves on the back for unionizing UPS Freight. Yipee!! You tell me who did better. Vote No x 2</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Why We Off?, post: 262559"] Hey Tie-goof .... did you get your ballot yet? I didn't think so. I am curious as to why you feel the need to "sell " us this contract. I would NEVER accept the companies first offer! Thats what negotiations are all about, they have until August to get it right. Tell me whats so good about this contract if you're not in the Central States? The yearly raises are merely OK, but totally crap if you divide them in half. How much are they saving each Xmas with this? I'm full-time, but why the increases in part-timers progression and probation? Again, how much are they saving by making workers wait an additional 6 months more before they reach top rate? The 6 billion buyout is great for those in the CS that are close to retirement, but what about a part-timer with 29 yrs. to go? Whats his retirement look like? Retention of new hires is a joke, and who can blame them for not staying .... and lest you think this unimportant, just remember that reguardless of all those fancy numbers you throw out, pensions are for the most part just pyramid schemes. So lets just call this contract what it is ..... UPS gets out of a failing pension fund, gets deferred raises, and longer progression times for full timers ...... and the Teamsters basically get to save face by saying that they saved the CS fund and patting themselves on the back for unionizing UPS Freight. Yipee!! You tell me who did better. Vote No x 2 [/QUOTE]
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