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<blockquote data-quote="Macbrother" data-source="post: 1077032" data-attributes="member: 42759"><p>No disagreement here, PTers have pretty much went backwards with every single recent contract.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sorry, but this part, on the other hand, is nonsense. I think we can all agree drivers make "premium" wages. How many of them are fired over production / overallowed? Not making 9.5? Where's the extra "leverage" the company has over them, that you say, will come with higher wages? As I have said before -- UPS already, as it is, squeezes every nickel out of preload they can possibly get, using the absolute <strong>minimum</strong>, every day, to run their operation. And people wonder why there's boxes stacked out all over the place and still coming down the belt at 8:30. All higher wages do is actually make pay commensurate with what we actually do and reflect the unique workload and inflexible hours. You don't think they use the 30 day hiring period to weed out people that can't come close to their absurd production requirements?</p><p></p><p>You don't think there are drivers that do the absolute minimum just to get by? When I driver helped last year you should've heard the complaints about two drivers in particular who were always dispatched with less stops and always needed help at the end of the day; these same drivers would call my guy 20 times a day asking for help to find addresses for routes they'd been doing over a month. So please, spare me the company "leverage" line, huh?</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Before I worked at UPS I worked for many years as an independent merchandiser, for a local dairy company. Our biggest customer was Walmart, which I serviced almost daily. So I got to work right beside and get to know many of the employees there -- most of them good, hard-working people. But pretending, even for a second, that what is asked of them is the same that's asked of a preloader is willful ignorance for the sake of arguement or someone that hasn't worked the sort for a very, very long time. I suspect a bit of both. As for the warehouse operation (which may actually <strong>be</strong> comparable in terms of workload, I can't say) their average starting pay is <strong>significantly</strong> higher. Not even comparable. As for their bizarre "ooh rah" meetings... well, I had a friend who's mother used to work there and heard the same from them.. I always dismissed it as rumor/myth. If that's the case, they indeed have fostered quite a cult over there.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Macbrother, post: 1077032, member: 42759"] No disagreement here, PTers have pretty much went backwards with every single recent contract. I'm sorry, but this part, on the other hand, is nonsense. I think we can all agree drivers make "premium" wages. How many of them are fired over production / overallowed? Not making 9.5? Where's the extra "leverage" the company has over them, that you say, will come with higher wages? As I have said before -- UPS already, as it is, squeezes every nickel out of preload they can possibly get, using the absolute [B]minimum[/B], every day, to run their operation. And people wonder why there's boxes stacked out all over the place and still coming down the belt at 8:30. All higher wages do is actually make pay commensurate with what we actually do and reflect the unique workload and inflexible hours. You don't think they use the 30 day hiring period to weed out people that can't come close to their absurd production requirements? You don't think there are drivers that do the absolute minimum just to get by? When I driver helped last year you should've heard the complaints about two drivers in particular who were always dispatched with less stops and always needed help at the end of the day; these same drivers would call my guy 20 times a day asking for help to find addresses for routes they'd been doing over a month. So please, spare me the company "leverage" line, huh? [COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000] Before I worked at UPS I worked for many years as an independent merchandiser, for a local dairy company. Our biggest customer was Walmart, which I serviced almost daily. So I got to work right beside and get to know many of the employees there -- most of them good, hard-working people. But pretending, even for a second, that what is asked of them is the same that's asked of a preloader is willful ignorance for the sake of arguement or someone that hasn't worked the sort for a very, very long time. I suspect a bit of both. As for the warehouse operation (which may actually [b]be[/b] comparable in terms of workload, I can't say) their average starting pay is [B]significantly[/B] higher. Not even comparable. As for their bizarre "ooh rah" meetings... well, I had a friend who's mother used to work there and heard the same from them.. I always dismissed it as rumor/myth. If that's the case, they indeed have fostered quite a cult over there. [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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