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<blockquote data-quote="Bagels" data-source="post: 1077208" data-attributes="member: 43436"><p>Either you have poor comprehension, or you're intentionally dancing around/mocking my assertion. I claimed that if UPS paid "premium" wages, it would hold greater leverage in attracting & weeding out the most quality help. Instead, if you have a pulse and are capable of showing up to work on-time most days, you'll have a job. You may be harassed every day... but you'll have a job.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I was once heavily involved with union. It's a fact, not my "personal experience," that company wide, PTers are rarely terminated. And only two FT terminations in ten years should earn your center a medal.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>LOL! Open your eyes up!! You'd be amazed at what management turns its back on every single day.... unless you're a steward or committee man, you likely don't know the breadth of people's attendance, misload and other performance issues (or harassment issues taking place).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/dissapointed.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":dissapointed:" title="Disappointed :dissapointed:" data-shortname=":dissapointed:" /> I didn't say or imply that. What I said was that status quo, employees with attendance & serious performance issues (misload, SPA people who continually invert labels, sorters who misload, etc.) are retained as are people whose performance isn't up to par (unloaders who take 90-minutes to unload a pup, baggers to take too long to bag, loaders who lag behind in PPH, etc.) during their probationary period. You can bet this would change should UPS be in position of paying premium wages.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/dissapointed.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":dissapointed:" title="Disappointed :dissapointed:" data-shortname=":dissapointed:" /> You didn't work here in 1980. You accepted a job here five years ago... if the compensation & working conditions weren't acceptable for you, you shouldn't have accepted it. But please tell me what other PT jobs -- that don't require a HS education -- offer their employees $10.50/hour after one year + full, no-cost benefits + 2 weeks vacation + up to 25 hours in discretionary time/more vacation (depending on your region) -- and then tell me the union does nothing for its employees.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bagels, post: 1077208, member: 43436"] Either you have poor comprehension, or you're intentionally dancing around/mocking my assertion. I claimed that if UPS paid "premium" wages, it would hold greater leverage in attracting & weeding out the most quality help. Instead, if you have a pulse and are capable of showing up to work on-time most days, you'll have a job. You may be harassed every day... but you'll have a job. I was once heavily involved with union. It's a fact, not my "personal experience," that company wide, PTers are rarely terminated. And only two FT terminations in ten years should earn your center a medal. LOL! Open your eyes up!! You'd be amazed at what management turns its back on every single day.... unless you're a steward or committee man, you likely don't know the breadth of people's attendance, misload and other performance issues (or harassment issues taking place). :disappointed: I didn't say or imply that. What I said was that status quo, employees with attendance & serious performance issues (misload, SPA people who continually invert labels, sorters who misload, etc.) are retained as are people whose performance isn't up to par (unloaders who take 90-minutes to unload a pup, baggers to take too long to bag, loaders who lag behind in PPH, etc.) during their probationary period. You can bet this would change should UPS be in position of paying premium wages. :disappointed: You didn't work here in 1980. You accepted a job here five years ago... if the compensation & working conditions weren't acceptable for you, you shouldn't have accepted it. But please tell me what other PT jobs -- that don't require a HS education -- offer their employees $10.50/hour after one year + full, no-cost benefits + 2 weeks vacation + up to 25 hours in discretionary time/more vacation (depending on your region) -- and then tell me the union does nothing for its employees. [/QUOTE]
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