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<blockquote data-quote="Bagels" data-source="post: 1077892" data-attributes="member: 43436"><p>I did want to clarify my positioning:</p><p></p><p>I disagree with the notion, as the OP laid out, that the union does nothing for PT employees. UPS PT positions are no-skilled, entry level jobs; UPS is competing with the same labor pool as retail & fast food outlets. Yet UPS PTers earn higher wages (the the opportunity for large wage progressions, should they remain employed long-term), enjoy substantially more paid time off & have no-cost health + retirement benefits. UPS offsets its comparatively high labor costs though increased productivity demands. Are the PT jobs hard? Absolutely not -- but they're fast-paced & manual labor intensive. Should the union achieve substantially higher wages for the PT work force, UPS would respond - in the short-term - with substantially higher productivity demands (and increased automation in the long-term). UPS has oodles of building layouts, and productivity increases will be easier at some than others. But as a whole, it's just wrong to say UPS squeezes "every nickle" of productivity it ever could from its Preload.</p><p></p><p>If you were a business owner attempting to hire an accountant, do you agree there would be a wide variation in quality of responses between a $25K and $60K salary offer? Likewise, UPS would receive a wide variation in responses between an $8.50/hour and (for argument's sake) $14/hour wage offer. I agree that UPS is getting high productivity from the workforce it's currently attracting... but with substantially higher wages, UPS would attract substantially more capable employees. Right now, the heart of the workforce is persons here exclusively for the insurance (like soccer moms SPAing for 3 hours, then seeking to go home), young persons just starting out and those waiting for driving positions. But that would quickly change to those here for the money. And UPS would be in position of no longer having to be lenient for attendance, misloads and other performance issues. Be careful of what you wish for.</p><p></p><p>Do I think UPS PTers are underpaid? Absolutely. But I believe the same's true of much of our workforce -- it's shameful that we've come to accept a society in which FT grocery store workers, receptionists at doctor's office, etc. earn $20K/year, while executive compensation continues to accelerate. But we live in a world in which a double cheeseburger at McDonald's costs $1, whereas a medium sized apple at a grocery store will cost more than that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bagels, post: 1077892, member: 43436"] I did want to clarify my positioning: I disagree with the notion, as the OP laid out, that the union does nothing for PT employees. UPS PT positions are no-skilled, entry level jobs; UPS is competing with the same labor pool as retail & fast food outlets. Yet UPS PTers earn higher wages (the the opportunity for large wage progressions, should they remain employed long-term), enjoy substantially more paid time off & have no-cost health + retirement benefits. UPS offsets its comparatively high labor costs though increased productivity demands. Are the PT jobs hard? Absolutely not -- but they're fast-paced & manual labor intensive. Should the union achieve substantially higher wages for the PT work force, UPS would respond - in the short-term - with substantially higher productivity demands (and increased automation in the long-term). UPS has oodles of building layouts, and productivity increases will be easier at some than others. But as a whole, it's just wrong to say UPS squeezes "every nickle" of productivity it ever could from its Preload. If you were a business owner attempting to hire an accountant, do you agree there would be a wide variation in quality of responses between a $25K and $60K salary offer? Likewise, UPS would receive a wide variation in responses between an $8.50/hour and (for argument's sake) $14/hour wage offer. I agree that UPS is getting high productivity from the workforce it's currently attracting... but with substantially higher wages, UPS would attract substantially more capable employees. Right now, the heart of the workforce is persons here exclusively for the insurance (like soccer moms SPAing for 3 hours, then seeking to go home), young persons just starting out and those waiting for driving positions. But that would quickly change to those here for the money. And UPS would be in position of no longer having to be lenient for attendance, misloads and other performance issues. Be careful of what you wish for. Do I think UPS PTers are underpaid? Absolutely. But I believe the same's true of much of our workforce -- it's shameful that we've come to accept a society in which FT grocery store workers, receptionists at doctor's office, etc. earn $20K/year, while executive compensation continues to accelerate. But we live in a world in which a double cheeseburger at McDonald's costs $1, whereas a medium sized apple at a grocery store will cost more than that. [/QUOTE]
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