Same Stops Over and Over and Over again

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by ChicagosPrimeMinister, Mar 17, 2016.

  1. ChicagosPrimeMinister

    ChicagosPrimeMinister What rhmyes with UPS?

    So the new updated diad and orion screen shows next day airs, savers and ground as separate stops. Sometimes it'll want you to come back later in the day and deliver to the same stop (ex: access point) for ground packages.

    But lets just say its your first stop and the ground+savers are on your 2000 shelf, would you have the person receiving(commercial stop) them sign 3 different times or just scan all of them and have them sign for all of them at once?
  2. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

  3. RonBurgandy??????????

    RonBurgandy?????????? God is Great, beer is good , People are crazy.

  4. joeboodog

    joeboodog good people drink good beer

    Air and ground in one shot counts as one stop.
  5. ChicagosPrimeMinister

    ChicagosPrimeMinister What rhmyes with UPS?

    does it? i had them sign for each stop one day and it equaled what my stop count was in the morning
  6. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    If you combine them in one delivery stop while you are there once it is one stop. If you are scanning the air and ground separately and creating two stops, you are padding stops. If like you working here, don't pad stops.
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  7. johnoutdoors

    johnoutdoors Member

    Its not worth the extra time allowance to pop up on their radar for padding stop counts.
  8. ChicagosPrimeMinister

    ChicagosPrimeMinister What rhmyes with UPS?

    It wasn't that I was padding it, that day was the first time i had seen it and I didn't know they had ground because orion had me jumping from air to my 5000 shelf, then 8000, then back to my 2000 when I finished my air. I didn't know they had ground+savers. I add them all together when I can find them now though.
  9. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    Scan them all at once, one signature.
  10. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Better yet what freaking moron decided to update the software so they are all one stop?

    This is one thing that still seperates know us from FedEx.
  11. Holydriver

    Holydriver Active Member

    ive seen this a lot too. best bet is if you have a 1030 commit for say one piece at an address that usually gets multiple pieces in a day go ahead and switch to RDO to see total pieces going there. get them all out at that time. you are definitely not padding stops if you are following ORION, but why not get them all at once anyway? shorten your day, and minimize the blank stares and feeling of ignorance when you bother your customers mulitple times each day delivering
  12. Box Ox

    Box Ox Well-Known Member

    Voluntarily digging everything out to deliver with the NDA while you're still bricked out can be a tall order. Especially with a snaked ORION load. You're often digging instead of quickly finding. I do it if I can find everything quickly. And tell the customer I'll be back (and why) if I can't.
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  13. Grey

    Grey Active Member

    It's not on every route but I can't stand it when your air is separated from your ground in the board.


  14. underworked1

    underworked1 Active Member

    If the board has you go there 3 times, and you do...that's 3 separate sigs and stops. Which is cool. If you go there in the morning and scan each air, saver, and ground separately and get sigs for each you will get credit for 3 stops when you had one. Which could get you fired. Only exception is a college campus or apartment building that you prerecord separate stops and then have them all signed and delivered to the office. You will get credit for each stops but that is per the methods.
  15. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut This Is The Last Stop

    I've never heard a word about padding stops except here on BC. Is this a big issue in bonus centers or something, because it's not an issue here.
  16. underworked1

    underworked1 Active Member

    Never heard of anyone fired for dishonesty or falsifying records? Because this could be considered either of the 2
  17. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut This Is The Last Stop

    Ya I've heard of that wise guy ;), I'm just not sure how it applies.

    Guess I'm not sure how delivering your airs, getting a signature, then delivering your grounds is dishonesty..... unless you're sitting on your ass stealing time for a few minutes in between. I mean I don't do it that way unless it's a bulk stop that I won't complete till after 10:30(prerecord soft key is in a terrible spot). I just don't see what the fuss is about.
  18. porkwagon

    porkwagon Active Member

    If you deliver air, leave and come back then it's two legitimate stops. If you're dumping it all off air and ground then get ONE signature. Padding stops is an integrity issue and is a big deal because it affects your dispatch and time allowance.
  19. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    I heard if you deliver just air then come back later to deliver ground its not an issue about being 2 stops. But if you try to dig out ground too and deliver some ground with the air and the rest of the ground later it gets flagged. It is still 2 legitimate stops but will show up on a report.
  20. BrownTexas

    BrownTexas Well-Known Member

    Depending on time I usually do that. Just grab what I can and come back later if need be. Still considered 2 separate stops. If I'm at a bulk stop at 10:29 I will have them sign for the air, stop complete, scan ground, dup stop, then stop complete. Like someone said before. I don't want an air being late because I hit a button with a box.