Seems like I should start looking for another job

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

by plan this is correct, but i think the hourly attrition will be far higher than they anticipate

Great plan
We already ket 10 air trailers sit this year

Hiw long before the company gets fined big time just like they did in 2015 for falsify air exception codes.
It's sinful and embarrassing what they are doing.

 

[clean hairy]

I wonder if they'd build a larger new center in the middle of 5 or 6 rural centers?
There is a town about 30 minutes away & right in the middle of all these centers. They are all heavy rural with maybe 20-40 routes in each center. Probably would end up with alot of satellites.

Sputnik?

 

[catstalking]

Great plan
We already ket 10 air trailers sit this year

Hiw long before the company gets fined big time just like they did in 2015 for falsify air exception codes.
It's sinful and embarrassing what they are doing.

The company is hyper focused on reducing staffing before the next contract, they will put whatever they have to in the shredder to hit their targets

It doesn't matter how stupid anyone thinks it is, that's the thinking at the Board level and the only thing that would change their minds would be a major economic boom

I wouldn't hold my breath on that

 

[Thebrownblob]

The company is hyper focused on reducing staffing before the next contract, they will put whatever they have to in the shredder to hit their targets

It doesn't matter how stupid anyone thinks it is, that's the thinking at the Board level and the only thing that would change their minds would be a major economic boom

I wouldn't hold my breath on that

It’s clear they don’t care what anyone thinks. They also don’t care if it will work or not they’re going to fit the square peg into the round hole regardless.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

The company is hyper focused on reducing staffing before the next contract, they will put whatever they have to in the shredder to hit their targets

It doesn't matter how stupid anyone thinks it is, that's the thinking at the Board level and the only thing that would change their minds would be a major economic boom

I wouldn't hold my breath on that

Maybe when they pay a big fine like they did in 2015 for falsifying record
...

 

[Sixth Punch Sense]

The company is hyper focused on reducing staffing before the next contract, they will put whatever they have to in the shredder to hit their targets

It doesn't matter how stupid anyone thinks it is, that's the thinking at the Board level and the only thing that would change their minds would be a major economic boom

I wouldn't hold my breath on that

Thanks for the corporate insight. I'm a post Amazon and pre covid hire, so I always feel like I'm safe(sitting at 65% in my building) But that would change with feeders bumping into package. Any insight on Minneapolis?

 

[catstalking]

It’s clear they don’t care what anyone thinks. They also don’t care if it will work or not they’re going to fit the square peg into the round hole regardless.

Yes and no

They care very deeply what their financial guys say, they are very data driven; no data, no decision

Casey though would say the most important things aren't measurable, but they would drive Casey out if he were here again

 

[Cheesypurpletees]

Yes and no

They care very deeply what their financial guys say, they are very data driven; no data, no decision

Casey though would say the most important things aren't measurable, but they would drive Casey out if he were here again

They’ll care very deeply soon enough when Wall Street starts demanding for better ‘and’ bigger

 

[Drink Craft Beer]

Here in northeast Ohio, was told by union rep. this morning that our center was closing. No time frame was set, but said that a 90 day written notice had to given. I've been hearing this periodically for 20yrs so I'll believe it when I see it but seems like this is the closest to be the real deal considering all else that's gone on.

It was confirmed about 3wks ago that the hub is definitely closing. Routes are being relocated to 3 different buildings.

I've been working preload for over 20yrs and this is what pisses me off about the move. We've been told that we can't bump anyone in the other building who has less seniority who do jobs the same as I ir others do right now. One guy on my shift been there over 25yrs and his current job is scanning packages/puts PAL labels on packages. How is it he can't bump someone who does the same job but has less seniority?? We were told that seniority will only play a part when it comes to bidding on a job if it arises and when it comes to choosing vacation weeks.

There's nothing in the contract that I'm aware of stating that's how the process will go down when moving to a different building (not by choice) Union rep says that's how it's been done across the country when buildings close. We'll, just because that's how it's been done doesn't make it right.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

It was confirmed about 3wks ago that the hub is definitely closing. Routes are being relocated to 3 different buildings.

I've been working preload for over 20yrs and this is what pisses me off about the move. We've been told that we can't bump anyone in the other building who has less seniority who do jobs the same as I ir others do right now. One guy on my shift been there over 25yrs and his current job is scanning packages/puts PAL labels on packages. How is it he can't bump someone who does the same job but has less seniority?? We were told that seniority will only play a part when it comes to bidding on a job if it arises and when it comes to choosing vacation weeks.

There's nothing in the contract that I'm aware of stating that's how the process will go down when moving to a different building (not by choice) Union rep says that's how it's been done across the country when buildings close. We'll, just because that's how it's been done doesn't make it right.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

Thst doesn't sound right.
Unless it's something in your local supplement.

But all the employees we got from other buildings, got dovetailed into seniority. .

This entire situation sucks

Sorry brother

 

[tourists24]

It was confirmed about 3wks ago that the hub is definitely closing. Routes are being relocated to 3 different buildings.

I've been working preload for over 20yrs and this is what pisses me off about the move. We've been told that we can't bump anyone in the other building who has less seniority who do jobs the same as I ir others do right now. One guy on my shift been there over 25yrs and his current job is scanning packages/puts PAL labels on packages. How is it he can't bump someone who does the same job but has less seniority?? We were told that seniority will only play a part when it comes to bidding on a job if it arises and when it comes to choosing vacation weeks.

There's nothing in the contract that I'm aware of stating that's how the process will go down when moving to a different building (not by choice) Union rep says that's how it's been done across the country when buildings close. We'll, just because that's how it's been done doesn't make it right.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

is this under the Central region supplement? Is there language in your supplement that covers building closures?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

is this under the Central region supplement? Is there language in your supplement that covers building closures?

.MYODB

 

[tourists24]

.MYODB

settle down beer boy

 

[Drink Craft Beer]

is this under the Central region supplement? Is there language in your supplement that covers building closures?

Yes, the Central and there is a section on "change of operations." It says pretty much what others have said prior.... that your seniority will be dovetailed into the new building. I see nothing (that I can find) about what my union rep says how it's going to go down. Getting the vibe that he really doesn't give a since it doesn't affect his job directly.

 

[Jones]

It was confirmed about 3wks ago that the hub is definitely closing. Routes are being relocated to 3 different buildings.

I've been working preload for over 20yrs and this is what pisses me off about the move. We've been told that we can't bump anyone in the other building who has less seniority who do jobs the same as I ir others do right now. One guy on my shift been there over 25yrs and his current job is scanning packages/puts PAL labels on packages. How is it he can't bump someone who does the same job but has less seniority?? We were told that seniority will only play a part when it comes to bidding on a job if it arises and when it comes to choosing vacation weeks.

There's nothing in the contract that I'm aware of stating that's how the process will go down when moving to a different building (not by choice) Union rep says that's how it's been done across the country when buildings close. We'll, just because that's how it's been done doesn't make it right.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

That's not how we do it in the Atlantic, seniority dovetails here. I just checked the master and it says the same thing:

Whenever a center is closed and the work is transferred to or
absorbed by another center, the affected employees will be entitled
to follow their work and their seniority shall be dovetailed at the
new center.

Unless your supplement says different, which would be strange but not impossible, your rep doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

[Drink Craft Beer]

Im reading the exact same thing on page 155 next to the last paragraph.

 

[Jones]

Im reading the exact same thing on page 155 next to the last paragraph.

Thinking about it a little bit I guess the only wrinkle would be if the jobs are "bid for life". We bid yearly here, so in a change of operations, you would be in cover at your new center until the annual bid at which time you would select a job in seniority order. With Bid for Life, your representative might be correct that you can only use your seniority to bid on new jobs and vacations unless you have language that specifically allows for bumping. He's still wrong about it being done that way all over the country though.

 

[Drink Craft Beer]

Another thing is that I could be told that a person who does the same job as me has more seniority (when they don't) and I wouldn't know any different. I mean, what am I going to do, tell management to prove it? Basically call them a liar?

 

[tourists24]

Im reading the exact same thing on page 155 next to the last paragraph.

that's the national agreement language. I'm not seeing anything in the Central Region supplement that says anything different. Maybe there's something I'm not seeing in the supplement that is applicable.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Another thing is that I could be told that a person who does the same job as me has more seniority (when they don't) and I wouldn't know any different. I mean, what am I going to do, tell management to prove it? Basically call them a liar?

Seniority list should be posted that would be a grievance if not