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<blockquote data-quote="The Mayor" data-source="post: 703354" data-attributes="member: 21132"><p>Federal Law requires all companies who wish to be represented by a union to, "be recognized as such and negotiate within reasonable terms for the prosperity of both workers and the business entity as a whole for the collective good of each party." So, with that being said, he can say all he wants to say, but truth of the matter is, he will have to either have some sort of concession or collective bargaining agreement with the work force. Now I am not crazy enough to say that things will be all rosey immediately following the passage of a union being stated into the Express division at certain locations, but I will say that some different aspects will get better. I don't pretend for one moment that we will have comparable or equal wages to UPS, but I will say that the battle will be up hill for at least the first 5 contracts in of which itself will be a huge difference. </p><p> </p><p>We (the workers) will scream for higher wages, lower premiums on health care, re-institution of the pension plan, and quicker top out. They will counter with quicker top out, and a variation of the pension plan. However, the length of the contract will be an issue in of itself as well. We (the workers) will want a 3-4 year deal, and they will want a longer deal so to put off the additional funding for higher salary. Since our pension plan (The traditional one) is already fully funded, it woun't cost uncle Fred any more money in long term costs. However, the largest burden he will have to face at one point or another is when the re-negotiation for higher wages comes to play in at or around the 2nd or 3rd contract time. This is what will add additional stress to "the financial budgeting." </p><p></p><p>Let's face it, the pilots have a union and are the highest paid in the industry. Does anyone here really think for one moment that Fred would want that for his employees too? The Express division is the meat and potatos of the entire corporation encompassing $22.4 billion out of the $37.5 billion of the business. It also has the largest number of employees over 164,000 out of the total 275,000 for the company as well. To give this type of increase to a majority of this size would cost him hundreds of millions. He wants to keep that money, not give it to his employees. The 237 VP's we have want to keep that money too. The division of financial assets and salary in comparision to line workers versus executive level management is astonishing. It like comparing the United States to Haiti.</p><p> </p><p>As far as Smith's ethical concerns go, IMO he would shoot his own mother to make a penny. Not only did he get a loan from daddy to start the business, get loans from the banks, but also stole his two sister's inheritance funds and applied it to the start up costs as well. He's got 10 kids to support, divorced how many times I don't know to be truthful, and bangs whoever, whenever (good for him there though). He's a ruthless POS and forces his employees to run like chickens with their heads cut off or threaten their jobs if they don't make their productivy goals (which are ridiculous to begin with). So, show me where his ethical principles are at. </p><p> </p><p>Sorry for the long rant, but truth be told...........</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Mayor, post: 703354, member: 21132"] Federal Law requires all companies who wish to be represented by a union to, "be recognized as such and negotiate within reasonable terms for the prosperity of both workers and the business entity as a whole for the collective good of each party." So, with that being said, he can say all he wants to say, but truth of the matter is, he will have to either have some sort of concession or collective bargaining agreement with the work force. Now I am not crazy enough to say that things will be all rosey immediately following the passage of a union being stated into the Express division at certain locations, but I will say that some different aspects will get better. I don't pretend for one moment that we will have comparable or equal wages to UPS, but I will say that the battle will be up hill for at least the first 5 contracts in of which itself will be a huge difference. We (the workers) will scream for higher wages, lower premiums on health care, re-institution of the pension plan, and quicker top out. They will counter with quicker top out, and a variation of the pension plan. However, the length of the contract will be an issue in of itself as well. We (the workers) will want a 3-4 year deal, and they will want a longer deal so to put off the additional funding for higher salary. Since our pension plan (The traditional one) is already fully funded, it woun't cost uncle Fred any more money in long term costs. However, the largest burden he will have to face at one point or another is when the re-negotiation for higher wages comes to play in at or around the 2nd or 3rd contract time. This is what will add additional stress to "the financial budgeting." Let's face it, the pilots have a union and are the highest paid in the industry. Does anyone here really think for one moment that Fred would want that for his employees too? The Express division is the meat and potatos of the entire corporation encompassing $22.4 billion out of the $37.5 billion of the business. It also has the largest number of employees over 164,000 out of the total 275,000 for the company as well. To give this type of increase to a majority of this size would cost him hundreds of millions. He wants to keep that money, not give it to his employees. The 237 VP's we have want to keep that money too. The division of financial assets and salary in comparision to line workers versus executive level management is astonishing. It like comparing the United States to Haiti. As far as Smith's ethical concerns go, IMO he would shoot his own mother to make a penny. Not only did he get a loan from daddy to start the business, get loans from the banks, but also stole his two sister's inheritance funds and applied it to the start up costs as well. He's got 10 kids to support, divorced how many times I don't know to be truthful, and bangs whoever, whenever (good for him there though). He's a ruthless POS and forces his employees to run like chickens with their heads cut off or threaten their jobs if they don't make their productivy goals (which are ridiculous to begin with). So, show me where his ethical principles are at. Sorry for the long rant, but truth be told........... [/QUOTE]
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