Seniority

[UpsAngel]

Quick question. Can someone with more seniority take my place. I'm a bit confused, i sort during preload and recently had a splitter take sort test and passed. I have been sent to preload package cars. Note: hes been here 7 years. My question is does he have more seniority, Even tho i took test and passed 6 months before he did? Co-worker had mentioned that i had more seniority in this situation because its a skilled position. Is this accurate? I'm thinking its not. Just thought i would ask.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Quick question. Can someone with more seniority take my place. I'm a bit confused, i sort during preload and recently had a splitter take sort test and passed. I have been sent to preload package cars. Note: hes been here 7 years. My question is does he have more seniority, Even tho i took test and passed 6 months before he did? Co-worker had mentioned that i had more seniority in this situation because its a skilled position. Is this accurate? I'm thinking its not. Just thought i would ask.

Unless you've worked at ups longer than him....he has seniority over you.

 

[UpsAngel]

Ok, so people with higher seniority COULD bid my job and replace me. Got it.

 

[upschuck]

If you have a bid job, which I don't think you have, he would have to be awarded a bump to take your job. Bumps are usually only awarded to drivers, or when a job is abolished. PT'ers don't have too many bid jobs, and just WAD.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Ok, so people with higher seniority COULD bid my job and replace me. Got it.

Your job is not on a bid list....

 

[UpsAngel]

Pters don't have too many bid jobs, and just WAD.

Newbie questions. What exactly is a bid job and a WAD. Would you please elaborate.

 

[upschuck]

A bid job is one that you sign a paper that is posting as certain job, the bid, and highest seniority that signed gets it; all others are WAD = Work As Directed.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Newbie questions. What exactly is a bid job and a WAD. Would you please elaborate.

Work as directed. We are preloaders...assigned to a center (assuming there's more than one center in your building). However, you could show up to work on Monday and be told to go work unloading trailers. We do what we are told and can be moved around whenever managment wants.

 

[Wally]

Did you suck at the sort? No sup will replace their best workers.

 

[upschuck]

Did you suck at the sort? No sup will replace their best workers.

Not voluntarily, anyway.

 

[PT Stewie]

Did you suck at the sort? No sup will replace their best workers.

That is giving them to much credit . I have an example just last evening where it happened.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

That is giving them to much credit . I have an example just last evening where it happened.

It doesn't happen often...centers pawn off their crappy loaders to the other centers. If you're good...it's like Hotel California...even if you want to switch centers, they usually won't let you.

 

[UpsAngel]

My main job is sorter. I preload cover for call in's. I'm good pretty much any function at my center actually. I would like to think i work hard, get no complain from the sup in that department.

 

[saintrick]

I was moved from sorter to load package cars. I filed and was returned to my sorter job.

 

[UpsAngel]

I was moved from sorter to load package cars. I filed and was returned to my sorter job.

I was in the exact same position except now im on the list ha. Still got my way tho tehe.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Quick question. Can someone with more seniority take my place. I'm a bit confused, i sort during preload and recently had a splitter take sort test and passed. I have been sent to preload package cars. Note: hes been here 7 years. My question is does he have more seniority, Even tho i took test and passed 6 months before he did? Co-worker had mentioned that i had more seniority in this situation because its a skilled position. Is this accurate? I'm thinking its not. Just thought i would ask.

You need to talk to your Steward and BA.

Local seniority practices are different everywhere.


For an example;

In my Local, the person who passed the sort test would be given 30 days to qualify for the position.

The lowest seniority person, would be displaced during this time.

After the person qualified (assuming they did)....

They would still have to wait for a position to open up, before it was a permanent job for them.



-Bug-

 

[Nostromo]

You need to talk to your Steward and BA.

Local seniority practices are different everywhere.


For an example;

In my Local, the person who passed the sort test would be given 30 days to qualify for the position.

The lowest seniority person, would be displaced during this time.

After the person qualified (assuming they did)....

They would still have to wait for a position to open up, before it was a permanent job for them.



-Bug-

I've been asked to go for secondary sorter but I haven't even made book yet. Is my lead sup trying to get me to do a different job other than secondary sorter? A little perplexed on my situation


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[UPS Preloader]

Depends upon your supplement. Here in NE it would be a preferred position in which seniority employees could put their name on a list requesting the preferred position. Once you have it, it's yours for 6 months. After that you could be replaced by a higher seniority request.

 

[Feederquacker]

Happened to me over a decade ago. I was loading on the local sort and had been there over nine years. Pt sup decided his buddy, who just got hired 8 weeks prior would move to the sort position that opened up instead of me as the senior PTer on the sort. I asked and was told to go back to the load and shut up. I filed on it being a "Preferred" position and that it should be filled in seniority order...... I won.

Sometimes it's just how you go about fighting the BS.


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[Nostromo]

Depends upon your supplement. Here in NE it would be a preferred position in which seniority employees could put their name on a list requesting the preferred position. Once you have it, it's yours for 6 months. After that you could be replaced by a higher seniority request.

If I was replaced by higher seniority employee would I go back to my original job that I got hired for(feeder loader) or would they move me to a different area say feeder unloader?


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