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<blockquote data-quote="DELACROIX" data-source="post: 3658816" data-attributes="member: 49065"><p>You mean that it would get worst..</p><p></p><p>.70 GWI = 28 dollars a week before taxes. (full time)</p><p> 14 dollars a week before taxes. (part time)</p><p></p><p>.50 H/W = 20 dollars a week increase</p><p></p><p>.50 Pension = 20 dollars a week increase. (maybe)</p><p></p><p>If the rider gets in and the master fails do you really believe that they will want to start all over again with the supplements. In general members do not like to be threatened by their own union representatives, again we are paying them to provide the best contract possible. It will not be taken lightly if they start to bully their membership, it barely worked the last time and it will not work this time.</p><p></p><p>In teamcare currently they are in surplus with their funding, those benefit should be getting better.</p><p></p><p>In the UPS/IBT pension..a (defined benefit plan).Look it up..the company only has to contribute enough monetary contributions to cover the promised benefits ANNUALLY. The question should be asked if the IBT/UPS Pension fund is being paid the same as most of the (monetary contribution plans) like the West...Look it up. </p><p></p><p>So that .50 per hour increase in pension might not apply to any of the defined benefit plans that are under control of UPS, including the UPS Pension Plan for part timers in the Central.</p><p></p><p>Again if we got the same benefits as the West I would vote "yes"..only a fool would. Those on you in the West would agree that the Central and Southern conferences will get little if any increases in their Pensions, and then wait till 1 January 2020 to get a 400 dollar increase. C'mon just look at the UPS/IBT pension formula and ask would you be willing to trade your benefits for those listed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DELACROIX, post: 3658816, member: 49065"] You mean that it would get worst.. .70 GWI = 28 dollars a week before taxes. (full time) 14 dollars a week before taxes. (part time) .50 H/W = 20 dollars a week increase .50 Pension = 20 dollars a week increase. (maybe) If the rider gets in and the master fails do you really believe that they will want to start all over again with the supplements. In general members do not like to be threatened by their own union representatives, again we are paying them to provide the best contract possible. It will not be taken lightly if they start to bully their membership, it barely worked the last time and it will not work this time. In teamcare currently they are in surplus with their funding, those benefit should be getting better. In the UPS/IBT pension..a (defined benefit plan).Look it up..the company only has to contribute enough monetary contributions to cover the promised benefits ANNUALLY. The question should be asked if the IBT/UPS Pension fund is being paid the same as most of the (monetary contribution plans) like the West...Look it up. So that .50 per hour increase in pension might not apply to any of the defined benefit plans that are under control of UPS, including the UPS Pension Plan for part timers in the Central. Again if we got the same benefits as the West I would vote "yes"..only a fool would. Those on you in the West would agree that the Central and Southern conferences will get little if any increases in their Pensions, and then wait till 1 January 2020 to get a 400 dollar increase. C'mon just look at the UPS/IBT pension formula and ask would you be willing to trade your benefits for those listed. [/QUOTE]
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