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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 77691" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>I don't think they listen to every call or every word but rather focus on sniffing across the board looking for certain keywords. It the system picks up on those words then the call is targeted specifically for close surveillance and the 2 parties tagged as potentials.</p><p> </p><p>The FBI's Carnivore program would be a good place to start if you wanted some idea how these systems works. How Stuff Works has a pretty good article on Carnivore if you want to check it out.</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://computer.howstuffworks.com/carnivore.htm" target="_blank">http://computer.howstuffworks.com/carnivore.htm</a></p><p> </p><p>Gotta tell you a very funny story about gov't sniffing. Back in the 80's there was a fellow very involved in the Tax Protest movement of the day and at the time phone tapping was still a science that gave of evidence of it's presense if you knew what to listen for. Well this fellow happen to hear what he thought was wire tap evidence so he and a friend decided to test their theory. The IRS had been looking high and low to discover where this guy hid his income so they could seize it as they had outstanding liens against him. This gentlemen decided to call him friend and tell him over the phone about where he had all his gold and silver buried in case something happened to he and his wife. He explained to his friend that the gold and silver was buried 9 to 12 inches deep in multiple locations within a certain area. He told the guy the layout of the gird area and then told him to just plow up that area to a 9 to 12 inch depth and the containers with the gold and silver would come to the surface. 3 days later the IRS show up with tractor and plow and begin to turn up this exact plot of land. The gentleman and his wife came out with tools and wheelbarrow and when the IRS was done having found nothing, they thanked the IRS for being so neighborly and plowing up their garden and then they began the planting process. </p><p> </p><p>True Story? Hard to say but the point is I doubt Al Queda operates in such as open way via phone conversations so now one has to ask how effective is this listening proving to be? That's hard to say as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 77691, member: 2189"] I don't think they listen to every call or every word but rather focus on sniffing across the board looking for certain keywords. It the system picks up on those words then the call is targeted specifically for close surveillance and the 2 parties tagged as potentials. The FBI's Carnivore program would be a good place to start if you wanted some idea how these systems works. How Stuff Works has a pretty good article on Carnivore if you want to check it out. [URL="http://computer.howstuffworks.com/carnivore.htm"]http://computer.howstuffworks.com/carnivore.htm[/URL] Gotta tell you a very funny story about gov't sniffing. Back in the 80's there was a fellow very involved in the Tax Protest movement of the day and at the time phone tapping was still a science that gave of evidence of it's presense if you knew what to listen for. Well this fellow happen to hear what he thought was wire tap evidence so he and a friend decided to test their theory. The IRS had been looking high and low to discover where this guy hid his income so they could seize it as they had outstanding liens against him. This gentlemen decided to call him friend and tell him over the phone about where he had all his gold and silver buried in case something happened to he and his wife. He explained to his friend that the gold and silver was buried 9 to 12 inches deep in multiple locations within a certain area. He told the guy the layout of the gird area and then told him to just plow up that area to a 9 to 12 inch depth and the containers with the gold and silver would come to the surface. 3 days later the IRS show up with tractor and plow and begin to turn up this exact plot of land. The gentleman and his wife came out with tools and wheelbarrow and when the IRS was done having found nothing, they thanked the IRS for being so neighborly and plowing up their garden and then they began the planting process. True Story? Hard to say but the point is I doubt Al Queda operates in such as open way via phone conversations so now one has to ask how effective is this listening proving to be? That's hard to say as well. [/QUOTE]
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