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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 78515" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Dboy,</p><p>You're wasting your time. Unless Tie is willing to read the record and consider the history then he's quite comfortable with where we are with CIA, NSA, etc. Sadly, if the mechanism for protecting the rights of Americans is broken then why has the gov't leadership whether from the executive branch or legislative branch failed to step up and fix it? Neither the President or the Congress have acted on this front and that is a dereliction of duty on both parts IMO. </p><p> </p><p>You are right in that once the genie is out of the bottle, it's rare if not impossible to get it back in. It's ironic that much of the info out there used to jusify the Iraq war which turned out not to be true was via CIA, NSA and so much from them before turned out bogus. Now we want to lay all our chips on that horse again? </p><p> </p><p>Saw this morning where a former Iraqi General has written a book entitled Saddam's _ _ _ _? (sorry I can't remember the entire title) that sez Saddam used 50 something bogus humanitarian aircrat flights to Syria to ship out his WMD in the year 2002' before the invasion. I could believe that and that does make sense. We know he had the stuff because he had used it before. Maybe CIA, NSA need to focus their missions on that rather than monitoring phone calls and emails. Besides, has this President once proposed shoring up border security? I might take his other less tasteful efforts more serious if he'd get serious about our wide open borders. Bush sometimes comes across as a quack doctor trying to give aspirin for an advanced case of cancer. We'll let em' get in here and then we'll spy on everyone to flush out the bad ones! Sounds like a good plan to me!<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/wink.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink:" title="Wink :wink:" data-shortname=":wink:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 78515, member: 2189"] Dboy, You're wasting your time. Unless Tie is willing to read the record and consider the history then he's quite comfortable with where we are with CIA, NSA, etc. Sadly, if the mechanism for protecting the rights of Americans is broken then why has the gov't leadership whether from the executive branch or legislative branch failed to step up and fix it? Neither the President or the Congress have acted on this front and that is a dereliction of duty on both parts IMO. You are right in that once the genie is out of the bottle, it's rare if not impossible to get it back in. It's ironic that much of the info out there used to jusify the Iraq war which turned out not to be true was via CIA, NSA and so much from them before turned out bogus. Now we want to lay all our chips on that horse again? Saw this morning where a former Iraqi General has written a book entitled Saddam's _ _ _ _? (sorry I can't remember the entire title) that sez Saddam used 50 something bogus humanitarian aircrat flights to Syria to ship out his WMD in the year 2002' before the invasion. I could believe that and that does make sense. We know he had the stuff because he had used it before. Maybe CIA, NSA need to focus their missions on that rather than monitoring phone calls and emails. Besides, has this President once proposed shoring up border security? I might take his other less tasteful efforts more serious if he'd get serious about our wide open borders. Bush sometimes comes across as a quack doctor trying to give aspirin for an advanced case of cancer. We'll let em' get in here and then we'll spy on everyone to flush out the bad ones! Sounds like a good plan to me!:wink: [/QUOTE]
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