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<blockquote data-quote="I GOT ONE MORE" data-source="post: 374095" data-attributes="member: 5997">OK, at least, this answer is respectful and somewhat insightful. Thank you.&nbsp;As far as never being invited, that begs a why. Why would UPS want this separation. It seems like more work for them too. UPS and the Teamsters have had a 100 years to consolidate. There is more to this story. Common sense says one contract.Support is essential for a union, but your local seems to have drawn a line with the rest of the union. Your a part of it, yet your not. Still trying to figure this out. Why not have your own supplemental to address your local concerns, like ALL the other regions. Your isolation seems self-inflicted.As far as tieguy, I appreciate his input. From my limited time here at Browncafe, I gather he is in management. It helps to understand management better when you try and see things through their eyes. Put yourself in their shoes. How would you manage things if you were the manager. I&#039;m not saying for you to be in mgmt, rather try to realize why they make decisions the way they do. Sometimes this approach can open eyes a little. It works for me, even when I&#039;m in complete disagreement. Before you start banging on me, I been driving pkg since 1992 and have never had an inspiration to join mgmt. I bust my ass every day, like you, and I am very thankful to work for such a great company. And this is a great company.&nbsp;Remember, I try to respect a good debate and understand contrarian views. This is how we learn. Hopefully, we can continue this thread with civility. I hope your leadership will come to agreement soon and all this will be moot, maybe the nma inclusion should be part of the handshake.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I GOT ONE MORE, post: 374095, member: 5997"] OK, at least, this answer is respectful and somewhat insightful. Thank you. As far as never being invited, that begs a why. Why would UPS want this separation. It seems like more work for them too. UPS and the Teamsters have had a 100 years to consolidate. There is more to this story. Common sense says one contract. Support is essential for a union, but your local seems to have drawn a line with the rest of the union. Your a part of it, yet your not. Still trying to figure this out. Why not have your own supplemental to address your local concerns, like ALL the other regions. Your isolation seems self-inflicted. As far as tieguy, I appreciate his input. From my limited time here at Browncafe, I gather he is in management. It helps to understand management better when you try and see things through their eyes. Put yourself in their shoes. How would you manage things if you were the manager. I'm not saying for you to be in mgmt, rather try to realize why they make decisions the way they do. Sometimes this approach can open eyes a little. It works for me, even when I'm in complete disagreement. Before you start banging on me, I been driving pkg since 1992 and have never had an inspiration to join mgmt. I bust my ass every day, like you, and I am very thankful to work for such a great company. And this is a great company. Remember, I try to respect a good debate and understand contrarian views. This is how we learn. Hopefully, we can continue this thread with civility. I hope your leadership will come to agreement soon and all this will be moot, maybe the nma inclusion should be part of the handshake. [/QUOTE]

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