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<blockquote data-quote="Pip" data-source="post: 443519" data-attributes="member: 6039"><p>The thing about suicide and depression is things build up over time. You fall into a rut. It seems everything you do to get out of that rut just ends up backfiring. Before you know it, you feel the same way when you wake up as you did when you went to bed, A lot of sleepless nights, nonstop worrying, little problems easily seem like impossible problems to correct or let go of. </p><p></p><p> When depression gets so deep that you can't see any light at the end of the tunnel, it is only a matter of time before something will trigger the extreme. Men are more inclined to hide depression to the point there are little or no warning signs. </p><p></p><p>My wife never seen it coming, my co-workers never seen it coming, My friends and family never seen it coming. One day something triggered me to go into such a deep sense of helplessness, that I was so centered on the task at hand. It was like having blinders on 24/7. your planning nonstop around the clock, looking for the best option. Your not thinking clearly of the ones you leave behind that will have to deal with the aftermath. All the while your putting on as if everything is ok, maybe leaving little hints that something might be wrong. If others aren't looking for them, they don't even give it a second thought and it isn't their fault for not recognizing them either. I had everybody fooled when I finally made my first attempt, the only reason it failed was I forgot the click the safety off, and lost my nerve. The second attempt, 2 days later in the hospital almost succeeded. If it wasn't for fast thinking on the nurses part to bring me back, I would not be here today.</p><p></p><p>It is very hard to reach out for help when you feel others look up to you as being strong. Until you have been in depression so deep, that it is all you think about. It is hard to imagine what that person really feels or what they are going through. Suicidal thoughts are real, they can consume a person to the point of carrying them out. Things always build up to it, but it is something that will trigger it to the next level and over the edge. </p><p></p><p>I have been reading Janice's posts with great attention the last couple weeks. Looking closely at what she was saying and how she was saying things... and to what others were saying. My wife would be sitting beside me reading the posts and would just look at me shaking her head relating to what Janice was posting. It hit home for my wife. Janice, there would have been very little you could have done to stop it. Thats the truth. </p><p></p><p>9 years later I've learned a lot about how to deal with stress, depression, how to reach out to your support group (family, friends, etc.) Asking for help isn't showing weakness. Knowing I need my downtime, which is in my avatar, my catfishing trips is what helps me relieve that everyday stress and not to let it get built up to the point it once was. I'm not saying go out and start fishing, just find something that you can do that you like, that will allow you that down time.</p><p></p><p>The message here is things aren't as bad as they might seem at the moment. There is help if given the chance. Reaching out will not make you any less of a person, nor will it make you look weak. Some might be able to understand what I'm saying, others may not. I'm fine with both.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pip, post: 443519, member: 6039"] The thing about suicide and depression is things build up over time. You fall into a rut. It seems everything you do to get out of that rut just ends up backfiring. Before you know it, you feel the same way when you wake up as you did when you went to bed, A lot of sleepless nights, nonstop worrying, little problems easily seem like impossible problems to correct or let go of. When depression gets so deep that you can't see any light at the end of the tunnel, it is only a matter of time before something will trigger the extreme. Men are more inclined to hide depression to the point there are little or no warning signs. My wife never seen it coming, my co-workers never seen it coming, My friends and family never seen it coming. One day something triggered me to go into such a deep sense of helplessness, that I was so centered on the task at hand. It was like having blinders on 24/7. your planning nonstop around the clock, looking for the best option. Your not thinking clearly of the ones you leave behind that will have to deal with the aftermath. All the while your putting on as if everything is ok, maybe leaving little hints that something might be wrong. If others aren't looking for them, they don't even give it a second thought and it isn't their fault for not recognizing them either. I had everybody fooled when I finally made my first attempt, the only reason it failed was I forgot the click the safety off, and lost my nerve. The second attempt, 2 days later in the hospital almost succeeded. If it wasn't for fast thinking on the nurses part to bring me back, I would not be here today. It is very hard to reach out for help when you feel others look up to you as being strong. Until you have been in depression so deep, that it is all you think about. It is hard to imagine what that person really feels or what they are going through. Suicidal thoughts are real, they can consume a person to the point of carrying them out. Things always build up to it, but it is something that will trigger it to the next level and over the edge. I have been reading Janice's posts with great attention the last couple weeks. Looking closely at what she was saying and how she was saying things... and to what others were saying. My wife would be sitting beside me reading the posts and would just look at me shaking her head relating to what Janice was posting. It hit home for my wife. Janice, there would have been very little you could have done to stop it. Thats the truth. 9 years later I've learned a lot about how to deal with stress, depression, how to reach out to your support group (family, friends, etc.) Asking for help isn't showing weakness. Knowing I need my downtime, which is in my avatar, my catfishing trips is what helps me relieve that everyday stress and not to let it get built up to the point it once was. I'm not saying go out and start fishing, just find something that you can do that you like, that will allow you that down time. The message here is things aren't as bad as they might seem at the moment. There is help if given the chance. Reaching out will not make you any less of a person, nor will it make you look weak. Some might be able to understand what I'm saying, others may not. I'm fine with both. [/QUOTE]
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