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Teamsters United = inexperienced and down right laughable.
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<blockquote data-quote="804brown" data-source="post: 1758198" data-attributes="member: 29553"><p>Its more complicated than that. Publicly yes Tim had to appear to back his BA but he was furious at what Liam had done that day. He wanted those 250 drivers back but management wanted to use this episode to hurt Tim and his administration, divide our local and cause problems between the Intl and our local. So they refused any meetings to fix the situation. Thats when the public relations mobilization kicked in. In the end it was very effective in getting UPS back to the table. </p><p>As for "running from the members", no one ran from any member. What Tim attempted to do was DE-escalate the situation. Some members wanted to ESCALATE the situation. In the end Tim was both strong in his tactics to get management back to the table AND reasonable in making a deal to get those members back to work.</p><p></p><p>As for the politics of it all, of course all this was on Tim's mind about running for the Intl. It was also on UPS' mind too which pushed their hand to deny Tim a clean win on this. They are perfectly happy with the Hoffa/Hall Concession Stand. Im sure both UPS and H2O wanted to embarrass Tim in this. Which is why Kenny boy was instructed to travel to Maspeth. Publicly, he went to fix the situation. Privately, he attempted (unsuccessfully)to hurt Tim's leadership skills (and with it his political aspirations). But by that time the Tim's public relations campaign had already worked and both sides were talking. Kenny boy just came to mediate the meeting between his friends at UPS and Local 804.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="804brown, post: 1758198, member: 29553"] Its more complicated than that. Publicly yes Tim had to appear to back his BA but he was furious at what Liam had done that day. He wanted those 250 drivers back but management wanted to use this episode to hurt Tim and his administration, divide our local and cause problems between the Intl and our local. So they refused any meetings to fix the situation. Thats when the public relations mobilization kicked in. In the end it was very effective in getting UPS back to the table. As for "running from the members", no one ran from any member. What Tim attempted to do was DE-escalate the situation. Some members wanted to ESCALATE the situation. In the end Tim was both strong in his tactics to get management back to the table AND reasonable in making a deal to get those members back to work. As for the politics of it all, of course all this was on Tim's mind about running for the Intl. It was also on UPS' mind too which pushed their hand to deny Tim a clean win on this. They are perfectly happy with the Hoffa/Hall Concession Stand. Im sure both UPS and H2O wanted to embarrass Tim in this. Which is why Kenny boy was instructed to travel to Maspeth. Publicly, he went to fix the situation. Privately, he attempted (unsuccessfully)to hurt Tim's leadership skills (and with it his political aspirations). But by that time the Tim's public relations campaign had already worked and both sides were talking. Kenny boy just came to mediate the meeting between his friends at UPS and Local 804. [/QUOTE]
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