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<blockquote data-quote="pretzel_man" data-source="post: 476328" data-attributes="member: 927">Browniehound:&nbsp;Sorry for being so long.&nbsp; Please at least read the last paragraph.&nbsp;I had a copy of the Telematics training (both for district management and drivers) on my computer.&nbsp; I went re-read the materials to ensure I didn&#039;t misrepresent what we were taught.&nbsp;First, let me start with the seat belt.&nbsp; Its NOT true that drivers are wearing their belt all the time and backing only when necessary.&nbsp; At least it wasn&#039;t true for the 1500 drivers tested.&nbsp;There was a remarkable change in this behavior when it was presented to the drivers. I was amazed at the relatively low seat belt usage when the system was first put in.&nbsp; Its now higher than 99.8%&nbsp;Next, recording while driving.&nbsp; Again, I was surprised at how high the usage was before implementation.&nbsp;I know you want to focus on the bulkhead door issue.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know what to say.&nbsp; The methods say to close it, so close it.&nbsp; I once posted that when I was a driver, I didn&#039;t close the door all the time.&nbsp; If my sup came up and said that I had to close it and that he would know if I didn&#039;t....&nbsp; Well, I would start closing the door and move on.&nbsp;The system has also found much excessive idle time going on.&nbsp; I&#039;m not talking about 10 degree weather and the driver is just trying to get through the day.&nbsp; I&#039;m talking about pure unnecessary idling.&nbsp; This reduction alone saves a tremendous amount of fuel.&nbsp; Feeder has been monitoring this since the early 1990&#039;s.&nbsp;The tests have shown that from an automotive side, road calls are reduced and maintenance expense is also reduced.&nbsp; This is a major part of telematics savings.&nbsp;You say its a waste of money.&nbsp; Think about it.&nbsp; UPS does NOT spend money without tremendous thought.&nbsp; (Sometimes we think way too much).&nbsp; Why would the management committee spend so much money if it were a waste?&nbsp;This system started in one building in Georgia and proved to save money.&nbsp; It then moved to two, then three, then to 1500 drivers.&nbsp; This year its moving to one center in each district and one whole district (somewhere in New England).&nbsp;There is a very easy way to prove that this is a waste of money.&nbsp; If BEFORE the system is put in their center, all drivers in started wearing their seat belt, eliminating idle time, closing the bulkhead, etc. then the system would show no savings.&nbsp; So far this has not been the case.&nbsp;Last thing...&nbsp; I may be wrong but I think its a misconception that &quot;The contract states information from technology can&#039;t used to disipline an employee&quot;. We were told that the contract now allows discipline based on thechnology but is limited.&nbsp; Here is the article: &quot;No employee shall be discharged on a first offense if such discharge is based solely uponinformation received from GPS or any successor system unless he/she engages in dishonesty&quot; &nbsp;P-Man</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pretzel_man, post: 476328, member: 927"] Browniehound: Sorry for being so long. Please at least read the last paragraph. I had a copy of the Telematics training (both for district management and drivers) on my computer. I went re-read the materials to ensure I didn't misrepresent what we were taught. First, let me start with the seat belt. Its NOT true that drivers are wearing their belt all the time and backing only when necessary. At least it wasn't true for the 1500 drivers tested. There was a remarkable change in this behavior when it was presented to the drivers. I was amazed at the relatively low seat belt usage when the system was first put in. Its now higher than 99.8% Next, recording while driving. Again, I was surprised at how high the usage was before implementation. I know you want to focus on the bulkhead door issue. I don't know what to say. The methods say to close it, so close it. I once posted that when I was a driver, I didn't close the door all the time. If my sup came up and said that I had to close it and that he would know if I didn't.... Well, I would start closing the door and move on. The system has also found much excessive idle time going on. I'm not talking about 10 degree weather and the driver is just trying to get through the day. I'm talking about pure unnecessary idling. This reduction alone saves a tremendous amount of fuel. Feeder has been monitoring this since the early 1990's. The tests have shown that from an automotive side, road calls are reduced and maintenance expense is also reduced. This is a major part of telematics savings. You say its a waste of money. Think about it. UPS does NOT spend money without tremendous thought. (Sometimes we think way too much). Why would the management committee spend so much money if it were a waste? This system started in one building in Georgia and proved to save money. It then moved to two, then three, then to 1500 drivers. This year its moving to one center in each district and one whole district (somewhere in New England). There is a very easy way to prove that this is a waste of money. If BEFORE the system is put in their center, all drivers in started wearing their seat belt, eliminating idle time, closing the bulkhead, etc. then the system would show no savings. So far this has not been the case. Last thing... I may be wrong but I think its a misconception that "The contract states information from technology can't used to disipline an employee". We were told that the contract now allows discipline based on thechnology but is limited. Here is the article: [I]"No employee shall be discharged on a [U]first offense[/U] if such discharge is based solely upon information received from GPS or any successor system unless he/she engages in dishonesty" [/I] P-Man [/QUOTE]

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