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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 478609" data-attributes="member: 484">Abusive managers dont have to have this system to be abusive.  They were around 75 years or more ago, and found ways to be abusive.   And yes, there will be ways for those knuckle heads to misuse it.  But that is what the panel is for. As for the stand on lunch. If you are driving the truck, you have to be on duty.  It is against the law for you to drive the truck, and be off duty. Also, there is the aspect of liability.  If you are not on the clock, and are involved in an accident, what then?   Yeah, I know UPS is legally on the hook for the cost.  d</blockquote>