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<blockquote data-quote="trplnkl" data-source="post: 490603" data-attributes="member: 13254">First of all, you were not even talking to me at the time, how could it hurt my feelings?&nbsp;Second, Not to sound ugly, but you aint got what it takes to hurt my feelings.&nbsp; Not a generic assumption at all, I got the info from the company that I worked for(as a fleet mechanic) at the time, their fleet had 3 point seat belts. Some were built by Grummon, some by Olson.&nbsp;&nbsp; I have also seen this, but that was done for transferring purposes. The final seat belt fitting was done after the body as put on with some of the bracing fastened to the inner structure of the body. Some of the vehicles that UPS has now with 3PB, the upper part is a bracket that extends up from the floor with bolts going down through the frame.And were did you see this data? Is it available to the general public?&nbsp;I can promise you one thing, there was never a mandate that 3PB were not to be used.&nbsp;And as someone else (SoberUps maybe) alluded to, if UPS had told the manufacturers that the company required 3 PB, they would have been put in.&nbsp;&nbsp;Sorry, just don&#039;t buy it. There would be no change in the general function of the vehicle, merely and upgrade of part of the equipment. It would not take a rocket scientist to figure out how to do it with out altering anything. If the companies that build UPS trucks can&#039;t do it, UPS needs to find new builders.&nbsp; Why would a company that claims safety to be their number one priority wait for the &quot;gooberment&quot; to force them to have real safety equipment installed in the new vehicles?</blockquote>And again, when you assume a faulty premise, you end up with faulty assumptions.[/quote]&nbsp;There is no faulty premise, if they have put the 3PB in when the truck was built, the would be approved.&nbsp; &nbsp; So once again, it comes down to money being more important to UPS that safety.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="trplnkl, post: 490603, member: 13254"] [COLOR=Sienna]First of all, you were not even talking to me at the time, how could it hurt my feelings? Second, Not to sound ugly, but you aint got what it takes to hurt my feelings.[/COLOR] [COLOR=Sienna] Not a generic assumption at all, I got the info from the company that I worked for(as a fleet mechanic) at the time, their fleet had 3 point seat belts. Some were built by Grummon, some by Olson.[/COLOR] [COLOR=Sienna]I have also seen this, but that was done for transferring purposes. The final seat belt fitting was done after the body as put on with some of the bracing fastened to the inner structure of the body. Some of the vehicles that UPS has now with 3PB, the upper part is a bracket that extends up from the floor with bolts going down through the frame.[/COLOR] [COLOR=Sienna]And were did you see this data? Is it available to the general public? I can promise you one thing, there was never a mandate that 3PB were not to be used. And as someone else (SoberUps maybe) alluded to, if UPS had told the manufacturers that the company required 3 PB, they would have been put in.[/COLOR] [COLOR=Sienna]Sorry, just don't buy it. There would be no change in the general function of the vehicle, merely and upgrade of part of the equipment. It would not take a rocket scientist to figure out how to do it with out altering anything. If the companies that build UPS trucks can't do it, UPS needs to find new builders.[/COLOR] [COLOR=Sienna]Why would a company that claims safety to be their number one priority wait for the "gooberment" to force them to have real safety equipment installed in the new vehicles?[/COLOR] [/quote] And again, when you assume a faulty premise, you end up with faulty assumptions.[/quote] [COLOR=Sienna]There is no faulty premise, if they have put the 3PB in when the truck was built, the would be approved. [/COLOR] [COLOR=Sienna]So once again, it comes down to money being more important to UPS that safety.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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