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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 491914" data-attributes="member: 14668">Re:Seatbets; 3 point vs 2 pointEXHIBIT C:&nbsp;Here we have an older unit, a 1988 P-1000, vehicle ID#106963. This unit is a GMC with the 4.3 liter gas engine and 4 speed transmission. The body is also by Grumman/Olson, and this particular series of P-1000&#039;s is identical with P-800&#039;s of the same year in every way except for the size of the package compartment.&nbsp;Like #135645 from the previous post, this vehicle came from the factory with only a lap belt. However, even though it is 8 years older than the 1996 model, it also has the same reinforced upright rib and cross piece around the door frame, although it is a bit difficult to see due to the poor quality of my phone camera and the fact that it was geting dark. If you look carefully however you can see the upright rib with the same round rivets in it as the other vehicles. This vehicle too could have a factory 3-point seat belt assembly installed, with nothing more than basic hand tools. The attachment points (seat pedstal and door frame) are absolutely identical.&nbsp;Without a 3 point belt, the driver of #135645 or #106963 is virtually doomed in the event of a frontal collision or rollover. With only a lap belt holding him in, his head will be propelled at high speed through the windshield. Or his upper body will flail around in the seat like a rag doll, with his neck getting snapped and his head violently striking the side door and bulkhead as the vehicle rolls.&nbsp;With the 3 point belt and high-backed seat in vehicle #136100, the drivers head and upper body will be secured in place and saved from whiplash or decapitation.&nbsp;&quot;Safe by choice&quot;----does UPS really mean it, or is it nothing more than a hollow catch phrase?[ATTACH=full]1225[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]1226[/ATTACH]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 491914, member: 14668"] [b]Re:Seatbets; 3 point vs 2 point[/b] [SIZE=4]EXHIBIT C:[/SIZE] Here we have an older unit, a 1988 P-1000, vehicle ID#106963. This unit is a GMC with the 4.3 liter gas engine and 4 speed transmission. The body is also by Grumman/Olson, and this particular series of P-1000's is identical with P-800's of the same year in every way except for the size of the package compartment. Like #135645 from the previous post, this vehicle came from the factory with only a lap belt. However, even though it is 8 years older than the 1996 model, it [U]also[/U] has the same reinforced upright rib and cross piece around the door frame, although it is a bit difficult to see due to the poor quality of my phone camera and the fact that it was geting dark. If you look carefully however you can see the upright rib with the same round rivets in it as the other vehicles. This vehicle too could have a factory 3-point seat belt assembly installed, with nothing more than basic hand tools. The attachment points (seat pedstal and door frame) are absolutely identical. Without a 3 point belt, the driver of #135645 or #106963 is virtually doomed in the event of a frontal collision or rollover. With only a lap belt holding him in, his head will be propelled at high speed through the windshield. Or his upper body will flail around in the seat like a rag doll, with his neck getting snapped and his head violently striking the side door and bulkhead as the vehicle rolls. With the 3 point belt and high-backed seat in vehicle #136100, the drivers head and upper body will be secured in place and saved from whiplash or decapitation. "Safe by choice"----does UPS really mean it, or is it nothing more than a hollow catch phrase? [ATTACH=full]1225[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]1226[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]

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