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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5808028" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>I really don&#039;t see the issue.&nbsp; If a person is making threats against others, putting it out there, then he has essentially put himself into a situation where authorities need to intervene.&nbsp; The idea that they should wait until he actually does something heinous because his personal rights are paramount means people will continue to die unnecessarily.&nbsp; It is the government&#039;s responsibility to keep us safe up to a point.&nbsp; That point imo is when you are being attacked you don&#039;t have the luxury of waiting for the police to show up.&nbsp; Other than that the government should be responsibly monitoring social media, taking seriously reports from citizens that a person is making threats, and dealing with that person in a timely, fair manner.&nbsp; Otherwise if that person finally acts out on his anger, delusions, whatever then the public are sitting ducks.&nbsp; IMO people forfeit certain rights once they cross a line.&nbsp; Think those who serve time in prison are good to go once they&#039;ve served their sentence?&nbsp; They lose their right to vote and own guns.&nbsp; There are limits to what should be tolerated.&nbsp; Rational people know this and don&#039;t make public threats.&nbsp; Those with mental issues are very likely to be spouting off about what they perceive to be wrong in the world.&nbsp; Those are the people who if they start making threats need to have a mental health professional evaluate them and if they have issues that are likely to lead to violence they need to be confined until such time they are no longer a threat.&nbsp; I&#039;m not talking about some guy who got mad once and threatened someone who was hurting him somehow.&nbsp; I&#039;m talking about those who clearly need help because they are repeatedly threatening to harm others.&nbsp; It&#039;s why we pay law enforcement and social services salaries.&nbsp; If you&#039;re anti government in every way and think they have no right to intrude in our lives in any way that&#039;s your business.&nbsp; But if we live by that standard then many people who could&#039;ve been stopped before they murdered a bunch of people won&#039;t be.&nbsp; And innocent people will continue to die who could&#039;ve been saved.&nbsp; Now give me the laugh emoji.&nbsp; I&#039;ve said enough.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5808028, member: 24302"] I really don't see the issue. If a person is making threats against others, putting it out there, then he has essentially put himself into a situation where authorities need to intervene. The idea that they should wait until he actually does something heinous because his personal rights are paramount means people will continue to die unnecessarily. It is the government's responsibility to keep us safe up to a point. That point imo is when you are being attacked you don't have the luxury of waiting for the police to show up. Other than that the government should be responsibly monitoring social media, taking seriously reports from citizens that a person is making threats, and dealing with that person in a timely, fair manner. Otherwise if that person finally acts out on his anger, delusions, whatever then the public are sitting ducks. IMO people forfeit certain rights once they cross a line. Think those who serve time in prison are good to go once they've served their sentence? They lose their right to vote and own guns. There are limits to what should be tolerated. Rational people know this and don't make public threats. Those with mental issues are very likely to be spouting off about what they perceive to be wrong in the world. Those are the people who if they start making threats need to have a mental health professional evaluate them and if they have issues that are likely to lead to violence they need to be confined until such time they are no longer a threat. I'm not talking about some guy who got mad once and threatened someone who was hurting him somehow. I'm talking about those who clearly need help because they are repeatedly threatening to harm others. It's why we pay law enforcement and social services salaries. If you're anti government in every way and think they have no right to intrude in our lives in any way that's your business. But if we live by that standard then many people who could've been stopped before they murdered a bunch of people won't be. And innocent people will continue to die who could've been saved. Now give me the laugh emoji. I've said enough. [/QUOTE]

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