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<blockquote data-quote="fishtm2001" data-source="post: 5983636" data-attributes="member: 54375">There&#039;s the number in black-and-white: 13,099 noncitizen convicted murderers who aren&#039;t detained by ICE. But you might be interested to know <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/29/politics/fact-check-trump-harris-immigrants-homicide/index.html" target="_blank">a couple of things:</a><ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">This number isn&#039;t for the past three years. It&#039;s for all time and goes back more than 40 years.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">&quot;Non-detained&quot; means they aren&#039;t detained by ICE. Many or most of them are instead detained in prison. ICE has no idea how many.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">The total non-detained docket for all crimes increased 10% under Trump and 5% under Joe Biden.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Murderers who have served their sentences and been released—an unknown number—are generally deported. But some countries won&#039;t take them, and the Supreme Court says they have to be allowed out.</li>
</ul>Kevin Drum</blockquote>

[QUOTE="fishtm2001, post: 5983636, member: 54375"] There's the number in black-and-white: 13,099 noncitizen convicted murderers who aren't detained by ICE. But you might be interested to know [URL='https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/29/politics/fact-check-trump-harris-immigrants-homicide/index.html']a couple of things:[/URL] [LIST] [*]This number isn't for the past three years. It's for all time and goes back more than 40 years. [*]"Non-detained" means they aren't detained by ICE. Many or most of them are instead detained [I]in prison[/I]. ICE has no idea how many. [*]The total non-detained docket for all crimes increased 10% under Trump and 5% under Joe Biden. [*]Murderers who have served their sentences and been released—an unknown number—are generally deported. But some countries won't take them, and the Supreme Court says they have to be allowed out. [/LIST] Kevin Drum [/QUOTE]

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