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<blockquote data-quote="Netsua 3:16" data-source="post: 4832978" data-attributes="member: 73764">I think he’s guilty of manslaughter, simply for not providing the dying citizen with humane treatment. The length of time is key.Resisting arrest gives the police officer the right to use excessive force to detain the subject. Resisting arrest doesn’t give the officer the right to kneel onto the subject for 9 minutes. Well past the time his field police work could have been completed. Get him in the car after 2 minutes. Go. Would he still have died? Very likely. But then, in that scenario Chauvin isn’t even on trial.Now. As far as...the actual trial and outcome? Even even if the man dying due to overdose (I certainly believe he was), it can (and will) be argued that the excessive time spent pinning the dying subject to the ground, could have been spent contributing to the man’s rehabilitation. The effort was not made. I think that’s gonna prove to be a problem for Chauvin. I don’t think he’s getting out of manslaughter.So, to answer your question, in court land no, the presence of fentanyl doesn’t make it indisputable that Chauvin didn’t contribute to his death.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Netsua 3:16, post: 4832978, member: 73764"] I think he’s guilty of manslaughter, simply for not providing the dying citizen with humane treatment. The length of time is key. Resisting arrest gives the police officer the right to use excessive force to detain the subject. Resisting arrest doesn’t give the officer the right to kneel onto the subject for 9 minutes. Well past the time his field police work could have been completed. Get him in the car after 2 minutes. Go. Would he still have died? Very likely. But then, in that scenario Chauvin isn’t even on trial. Now. As far as...the actual trial and outcome? Even even if the man dying due to overdose (I certainly believe he was), it can (and will) be argued that the excessive time spent pinning the dying subject to the ground, could have been spent contributing to the man’s rehabilitation. The effort was not made. I think that’s gonna prove to be a problem for Chauvin. I don’t think he’s getting out of manslaughter. So, to answer your question, in court land no, the presence of fentanyl doesn’t make it indisputable that Chauvin didn’t contribute to his death. [/QUOTE]

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