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<blockquote data-quote="quadro" data-source="post: 579443" data-attributes="member: 12850"><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Swiss721BT-Roman'">Ok, Ricochet, I'm going to type this slowly so that you can understand it as I've already said it several times but you either are missing it or choosing to ignore it: I never said that the PPP was a good thing. Some people will benefit from it and some won't. I also never said that the percentage would make a big difference. I simply pointed out 2 errors in your original statement. 1. You don't get both pensions - we've established you do. 2. The PPP isn't fixed at 5% - you've finally acknowledged that fact also.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Swiss721BT-Roman'"><p style="text-align: left">You know, all you had to do was say "mea culpa it's not locked at 5% but it really doesn't make a difference" and leave it at that.</p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Swiss721BT-Roman'"><p style="text-align: left">Instead, you and MrFedEx resort to ad hominem arguments. Here's the problem with that. I said I'm not very well versed in TVM calculations etc, and here was an opportunity for you to say "let me show you how it works and how it's probably not a good deal for you, and by the way, it's not locked at 5% but let me also show you how that makes little difference". You finally did that (for the most part) a few posts up. Now if you had done that in the first place, I would have had a lot more respect for what you had to say as it is clear, concise, makes sense, and educates me. Then when I hear other FedEx employees who are likely also not as well versed in this as you seem to be, I wouldn't hesitate to tell them what you've said and how they can get more information. Thus making for a stronger base of employees who are willing to fight for what's right because they understand the issues and won't get fooled by misinformation.</p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Swiss721BT-Roman'"><p style="text-align: left">Unfortunately, you and MrFedEx decide it's better to belittle people and alienate them rather than building strength.</p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Swiss721BT-Roman'"><p style="text-align: left">I realize that in a forum such as this that emotions tend to run high but doesn't it make more sense to try and educate people rather than alienate them? If people come in here to attack you, it's a lot easier to just ignore them. However, people such as myself who are trying to understand the big picture and try to have a respectful discussion are the ones you can convince if you respond respectfully.</p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Swiss721BT-Roman'"><p style="text-align: left">Just my 2cents.</p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Swiss721BT-Roman'"><p style="text-align: left">Oh, and I still am curious why no one has offered any explanation or more detail as to why the switch from DBPP to PPP occurred. And again, for anyone not paying attention, I'm not saying the PPP is good or bad as an overall plan, I'm just looking for discussion as to why the switch and what else could have been done.</p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Swiss721BT-Roman'"><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Swiss721BT-Roman'"></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Swiss721BT-Roman'"></span></span>And just for the record, you made the first false statements but I'm willing to let that go. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="quadro, post: 579443, member: 12850"] [LEFT][SIZE=2][FONT=Swiss721BT-Roman]Ok, Ricochet, I'm going to type this slowly so that you can understand it as I've already said it several times but you either are missing it or choosing to ignore it: I never said that the PPP was a good thing. Some people will benefit from it and some won't. I also never said that the percentage would make a big difference. I simply pointed out 2 errors in your original statement. 1. You don't get both pensions - we've established you do. 2. The PPP isn't fixed at 5% - you've finally acknowledged that fact also.[/FONT][/SIZE][/LEFT] [SIZE=2][FONT=Swiss721BT-Roman][LEFT]You know, all you had to do was say "mea culpa it's not locked at 5% but it really doesn't make a difference" and leave it at that.[/LEFT][/FONT][LEFT][/left][/SIZE][LEFT][/LEFT] [SIZE=2][FONT=Swiss721BT-Roman][LEFT]Instead, you and MrFedEx resort to ad hominem arguments. Here's the problem with that. I said I'm not very well versed in TVM calculations etc, and here was an opportunity for you to say "let me show you how it works and how it's probably not a good deal for you, and by the way, it's not locked at 5% but let me also show you how that makes little difference". You finally did that (for the most part) a few posts up. Now if you had done that in the first place, I would have had a lot more respect for what you had to say as it is clear, concise, makes sense, and educates me. Then when I hear other FedEx employees who are likely also not as well versed in this as you seem to be, I wouldn't hesitate to tell them what you've said and how they can get more information. Thus making for a stronger base of employees who are willing to fight for what's right because they understand the issues and won't get fooled by misinformation.[/LEFT][/FONT][LEFT][/left][/SIZE][LEFT][/LEFT] [SIZE=2][FONT=Swiss721BT-Roman][LEFT]Unfortunately, you and MrFedEx decide it's better to belittle people and alienate them rather than building strength.[/LEFT][/FONT][LEFT][/left][/SIZE][LEFT][/LEFT] [SIZE=2][FONT=Swiss721BT-Roman][LEFT]I realize that in a forum such as this that emotions tend to run high but doesn't it make more sense to try and educate people rather than alienate them? If people come in here to attack you, it's a lot easier to just ignore them. However, people such as myself who are trying to understand the big picture and try to have a respectful discussion are the ones you can convince if you respond respectfully.[/LEFT][/FONT][LEFT][/left][/SIZE][LEFT][/LEFT] [SIZE=2][FONT=Swiss721BT-Roman][LEFT]Just my 2cents.[/LEFT][/FONT][LEFT][/left][/SIZE][LEFT][/LEFT] [SIZE=2][FONT=Swiss721BT-Roman][LEFT]Oh, and I still am curious why no one has offered any explanation or more detail as to why the switch from DBPP to PPP occurred. And again, for anyone not paying attention, I'm not saying the PPP is good or bad as an overall plan, I'm just looking for discussion as to why the switch and what else could have been done.[/LEFT][/FONT][LEFT][/left][/SIZE][LEFT][/LEFT] [SIZE=2][FONT=Swiss721BT-Roman][LEFT][SIZE=2][FONT=Swiss721BT-Roman][/FONT][/SIZE][/LEFT][/FONT][LEFT][/left][/SIZE][LEFT][/LEFT] [SIZE=2][FONT=Swiss721BT-Roman] [/FONT][/SIZE]And just for the record, you made the first false statements but I'm willing to let that go. :happy-very: [/QUOTE]
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