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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 609588" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Yeah that's the Border Reviers. They are proud and still exist today, even have websites. Here's the<a href="http://www.borderreivers.co.uk/" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"> UK</span> </a>site and here's the <a href="http://www.theborderers.info/" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">US</span></a>. Reive in early english means, "to rob."</p><p> </p><p>Now for a wee little history lesson so pay attention. I'm guessing you assumed the prefix Mac (meaning "son of" same as the jewish prefix "ben" or arabic "bin") and then the talk of Scot-Irish and you had me pegged. Well that could work except for one slight problem. Mac is gaelic and therefore of "Highland" not lowland origin. Also not only at each of the sites above but also in wikipedia under the article Border Reivers are the listings of the family names of Border or what some now called "borderers", peoples. Let's see, looking over the list......well nice try anyway on your part and as I said earlier, <u>Interesting!</u> </p><p> </p><p>One other little side note of little importance I know but the border reivers don't use the highland term "clan" but use the lowland term "graynes". Now they mean the same thing but then other interchangable words with clan are family, folk, and even race. They all mean the same thing in historic terms but in our modern stupidity we wrongly ascribe them to something else. Helps when we do so which allows others to manipulate us. Also if one like myself dare attend a Reiver gathering in my kilt, I'd be immediately scolded and sent away (for one, I'm a highlander, not a lowlander) and borderers held the practice of wearing pants. Being mounted horseman (unlike highland clansman) wearing a kilt might leave one a little saddle sore if you get my drift!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p><p> </p><p>Another tradition of the Highlands was Crann Tara and was a declaration of war and a means to assemble the members of the highland clan from the area. This once proud and noble highland tradition was sadly hijacked in America in the 20th century for the purposes of (see the next section quoting wikipedia.) Crann Tara was also known as the "burning cross." Might as well touch on that for it's truth before you pull it out from the dustbin of modern false imagery. An imagery I might add used wrongly by both sides in modern America. I would damn them all to hell for it if I believed in such false places. I gave up Horus and Set and later manifestations a long time ago. When it comes to religion, I like Tom Paine's direction.</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p><p> </p><p>The opening scene of Langdon's lecture in the Da Vinci Code is OH SO TRUE! If yet we could only learn something from it! Understanding the nature and history of false magery would go a long way in breaking the backs of those who manipulate us with it.</p><p> </p><p>One other aspect of border life and culture and this comes from the wiki article itself. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Well, Well, Well, who else but your prized and cherished State are found to have used and valued these border actions so maybe like so many other interventions in human history of gov't we find the tell-tell finger print of evil all over the place! Sounds like the State and ACORN don't it!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p><p> </p><p>signed</p><p> </p><p>MAC-A8itch</p><p> </p><p>Bad Gas,</p><p> </p><p>Can't agree on your observation of Rolling Stone. Matt Taibbi's article, <a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/28816321/the_great_american_bubble_machine/print" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">The Great American Bubble Machine</span> </a>was pure dynamite and exposed the gov't and for that fact what both political parties really are. Maybe the only reason you don't like it is because like Fact Check, you are wedded to one political side of the border and only see that aspect in the publication. </p><p> </p><p>Hmmmm. Border Reivers, divided on 2 sides, devoted to dominating a geo-graphic locale and it's people and wealth.</p><p> </p><p>2 American political parties, divided on 2 sides, devoted to dominating a geo-graphic locale, it's people and wealth.</p><p> </p><p>I think we just found where the descendents of the border reivers actually reside!</p><p> </p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 609588, member: 2189"] Yeah that's the Border Reviers. They are proud and still exist today, even have websites. Here's the[URL="http://www.borderreivers.co.uk/"][COLOR=red] UK[/COLOR] [/URL]site and here's the [URL="http://www.theborderers.info/"][COLOR=red]US[/COLOR][/URL]. Reive in early english means, "to rob." Now for a wee little history lesson so pay attention. I'm guessing you assumed the prefix Mac (meaning "son of" same as the jewish prefix "ben" or arabic "bin") and then the talk of Scot-Irish and you had me pegged. Well that could work except for one slight problem. Mac is gaelic and therefore of "Highland" not lowland origin. Also not only at each of the sites above but also in wikipedia under the article Border Reivers are the listings of the family names of Border or what some now called "borderers", peoples. Let's see, looking over the list......well nice try anyway on your part and as I said earlier, [U]Interesting![/U] One other little side note of little importance I know but the border reivers don't use the highland term "clan" but use the lowland term "graynes". Now they mean the same thing but then other interchangable words with clan are family, folk, and even race. They all mean the same thing in historic terms but in our modern stupidity we wrongly ascribe them to something else. Helps when we do so which allows others to manipulate us. Also if one like myself dare attend a Reiver gathering in my kilt, I'd be immediately scolded and sent away (for one, I'm a highlander, not a lowlander) and borderers held the practice of wearing pants. Being mounted horseman (unlike highland clansman) wearing a kilt might leave one a little saddle sore if you get my drift! :happy-very: Another tradition of the Highlands was Crann Tara and was a declaration of war and a means to assemble the members of the highland clan from the area. This once proud and noble highland tradition was sadly hijacked in America in the 20th century for the purposes of (see the next section quoting wikipedia.) Crann Tara was also known as the "burning cross." Might as well touch on that for it's truth before you pull it out from the dustbin of modern false imagery. An imagery I might add used wrongly by both sides in modern America. I would damn them all to hell for it if I believed in such false places. I gave up Horus and Set and later manifestations a long time ago. When it comes to religion, I like Tom Paine's direction. :wink2: The opening scene of Langdon's lecture in the Da Vinci Code is OH SO TRUE! If yet we could only learn something from it! Understanding the nature and history of false magery would go a long way in breaking the backs of those who manipulate us with it. One other aspect of border life and culture and this comes from the wiki article itself. Well, Well, Well, who else but your prized and cherished State are found to have used and valued these border actions so maybe like so many other interventions in human history of gov't we find the tell-tell finger print of evil all over the place! Sounds like the State and ACORN don't it! :happy-very: signed MAC-A8itch Bad Gas, Can't agree on your observation of Rolling Stone. Matt Taibbi's article, [URL="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/28816321/the_great_american_bubble_machine/print"][COLOR=red]The Great American Bubble Machine[/COLOR] [/URL]was pure dynamite and exposed the gov't and for that fact what both political parties really are. Maybe the only reason you don't like it is because like Fact Check, you are wedded to one political side of the border and only see that aspect in the publication. Hmmmm. Border Reivers, divided on 2 sides, devoted to dominating a geo-graphic locale and it's people and wealth. 2 American political parties, divided on 2 sides, devoted to dominating a geo-graphic locale, it's people and wealth. I think we just found where the descendents of the border reivers actually reside! :happy-very: [/QUOTE]
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