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<blockquote data-quote="barnyard" data-source="post: 1066716" data-attributes="member: 13921"><p>Exactly.</p><p></p><p>Quit looking at the UPS/Union relationship and look at the bigger picture.</p><p></p><p>I am on other message boards. Go to two wheel texans and post the same question. It would appear that south of the mason/dixon line the public HATES union. North of it, it seems to be tolerated.</p><p></p><p>Why is that??</p><p></p><p>I would suggest it is because the PR of those against us is far stronger than from those that support.</p><p></p><p>It is well recognized by business people (including the Wall Street Journal) that Hostess filed bankruptcy because of poor management. Because it was done during a contract negotiation, conservative commentators can easily point to the union and say, "They would not except concessions, so they put the company out of business." Unfortunately, the truth was completely drowned out by 'exploding head radio.'</p><p></p><p>I believe that historians will look back and call this the "shareholder" era. Currently and for the past 15ish years, the only thing that seems to matter is 'shareholder value.' Translated, that means continually boost the share price to enrich day traders. I believe that reregulating banks and investments will be the 1 of the 1st steps to bring back the middle class. The other is going to be unions fighting to change 'RTW' laws so that the union does not have to defend scabs. If a person wants union representation, pay for it. If they do not, then do not pay for it, but also do not expect the benefits. I would include managing healthcare and retirement plans. If a person is not a member, make the employer manage that.</p><p></p><p>Unions need to do much more communicating to show their benefit to the rest of society. We have some very smart people on our side (Robert Reisch, for instance) and we need to do a better job of getting that message to the people in a way that they say, "Yes, that is a really good idea."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="barnyard, post: 1066716, member: 13921"] Exactly. Quit looking at the UPS/Union relationship and look at the bigger picture. I am on other message boards. Go to two wheel texans and post the same question. It would appear that south of the mason/dixon line the public HATES union. North of it, it seems to be tolerated. Why is that?? I would suggest it is because the PR of those against us is far stronger than from those that support. It is well recognized by business people (including the Wall Street Journal) that Hostess filed bankruptcy because of poor management. Because it was done during a contract negotiation, conservative commentators can easily point to the union and say, "They would not except concessions, so they put the company out of business." Unfortunately, the truth was completely drowned out by 'exploding head radio.' I believe that historians will look back and call this the "shareholder" era. Currently and for the past 15ish years, the only thing that seems to matter is 'shareholder value.' Translated, that means continually boost the share price to enrich day traders. I believe that reregulating banks and investments will be the 1 of the 1st steps to bring back the middle class. The other is going to be unions fighting to change 'RTW' laws so that the union does not have to defend scabs. If a person wants union representation, pay for it. If they do not, then do not pay for it, but also do not expect the benefits. I would include managing healthcare and retirement plans. If a person is not a member, make the employer manage that. Unions need to do much more communicating to show their benefit to the rest of society. We have some very smart people on our side (Robert Reisch, for instance) and we need to do a better job of getting that message to the people in a way that they say, "Yes, that is a really good idea." [/QUOTE]
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