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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1160222" data-attributes="member: 2189">That would be no guarantee either in that from a certain POV going to a conventional medical doctor could be as shakey as using the faith healing approach.&nbsp; Are we relying on a type appeal to authority in our trust of conventional medical routes at some level?NY Times:&nbsp; <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/01/opinion/more-treatment-more-mistakes.html?_r=0" target="_blank">More Treatment, More Mistakes</a>I&#039;m not defending faith healing but I&#039;m not putting my blind trust in a profession that&#039;s riddled with problems if one is willing to drill down into it&#039;s core.&nbsp; On certain levels, both have their problems and even for example with cancer treatment, there is a level of just trust and faith as the percentages show not everyone comes out the otherside healthy or even alive.&nbsp; Those odds are getting better every day and this is wonderful.&nbsp; We were extremely fortunate to have/had a pediatrician who was not just honest but gave you every side of any issue and presented you the scientific data, side effects and even effectiveness of every process and being fully informed as best you could be, then you felt better making the choices you did.&nbsp; If all doctors did this, some of the infallible blind faith people hold even in conventional medicine would go away but it also sheds a lot of liability off the doctor and back on you because you are so fully informed and you know the percentages of success to non success along with the known side effects including death.&nbsp; Also knowing the side effects, you were on the watch and if you saw them you reacted.&nbsp; Many people not knowing the side effects don&#039;t know to react and that can be when things go wrong or even go to a point of no return.&nbsp; Just listen to any commercial advertising a specific medicine and all the warnings that come with them and one warning for just about all of them is &quot;death.&quot;&nbsp; Next time a medication is pushed your way, ask about the side effects and warnings (even death) and then ask is there any testing to see if you are of the percentage of the population that is at risk?&nbsp; When the doctor sez no and he/she would be right, you take the medication anyway, how is that not an act of faith?Medicine knows a lot but at the same time doesn&#039;t know a lot and tragically in some cases is panning what amounts to it&#039;s own snake oil for the sake of profits. All under the false assumption of gov&#039;t protection and if you look at the hierarchy of the protective agency, you&#039;ll see people from the various big pharma institutions in charge to feather their own nests.&nbsp; And thus another reason to do due diligence and even that may not be enough.Faith and false gods can be expressed by many different means!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1160222, member: 2189"] That would be no guarantee either in that from a certain POV going to a conventional medical doctor could be as shakey as using the faith healing approach. Are we relying on a type appeal to authority in our trust of conventional medical routes at some level? NY Times: [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/01/opinion/more-treatment-more-mistakes.html?_r=0"][COLOR=#ff0000]More Treatment, More Mistakes[/COLOR][/URL] I'm not defending faith healing but I'm not putting my blind trust in a profession that's riddled with problems if one is willing to drill down into it's core. On certain levels, both have their problems and even for example with cancer treatment, there is a level of just trust and faith as the percentages show not everyone comes out the otherside healthy or even alive. Those odds are getting better every day and this is wonderful. We were extremely fortunate to have/had a pediatrician who was not just honest but gave you every side of any issue and presented you the scientific data, side effects and even effectiveness of every process and being fully informed as best you could be, then you felt better making the choices you did. If all doctors did this, some of the infallible blind faith people hold even in conventional medicine would go away but it also sheds a lot of liability off the doctor and back on you because you are so fully informed and you know the percentages of success to non success along with the known side effects including death. Also knowing the side effects, you were on the watch and if you saw them you reacted. Many people not knowing the side effects don't know to react and that can be when things go wrong or even go to a point of no return. Just listen to any commercial advertising a specific medicine and all the warnings that come with them and one warning for just about all of them is "death." Next time a medication is pushed your way, ask about the side effects and warnings (even death) and then ask is there any testing to see if you are of the percentage of the population that is at risk? When the doctor sez no and he/she would be right, you take the medication anyway, how is that not an act of faith? Medicine knows a lot but at the same time doesn't know a lot and tragically in some cases is panning what amounts to it's own snake oil for the sake of profits. All under the false assumption of gov't protection and if you look at the hierarchy of the protective agency, you'll see people from the various big pharma institutions in charge to feather their own nests. And thus another reason to do due diligence and even that may not be enough. Faith and false gods can be expressed by many different means! [/QUOTE]

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