The Russian and Chinese Partnership

Gotta Go

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Babagounj

Strength through joy
There was a time when Ford claimed that their Pinto Wagon was an American Car.
My father had one.
Except the body was Canadian, the engine was British and the transmission was French.
 

rickyb

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There was a time when Ford claimed that their Pinto Wagon was an American Car.
My father had one.
Except the body was Canadian, the engine was British and the transmission was French.
precisely

consumer reports answers this question with similar answers
 

vantexan

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To some degree absolutely.

Not just the UK.

America likes the Russian invasion of Ukraine bc it pushed eu into more American influence
To some degree not absolutely. They are our military ally. A major trading partner. We don't control them. They go along with Washington if it serves their needs.

You seem to forget that the U.S. was shouldering almost the entire NATO military burden for decades. Trump pushed them to pay their fair share. The Ukraine war has made them realize they needed to spend more on defense.
 

Box Ox

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You seem to forget that the U.S. was shouldering almost the entire NATO military burden for decades. Trump pushed them to pay their fair share. The Ukraine war has made them realize they needed to spend more on defense.

Now you've done it. Comrade Ricky is going to say that the war in Ukraine is proof that NATO/Europe needs to pull back and spend less on defense.
 

rickyb

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To some degree not absolutely. They are our military ally. A major trading partner. We don't control them. They go along with Washington if it serves their needs.

You seem to forget that the U.S. was shouldering almost the entire NATO military burden for decades. Trump pushed them to pay their fair share. The Ukraine war has made them realize they needed to spend more on defense.
NATO is america.

UK is absolutely under american influence. ill go into more detail for you in teh future.

another example would be the weapons deal between france and australia i believe. america just rolled in there.
 

vantexan

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NATO is america.

UK is absolutely under american influence. ill go into more detail for you in teh future.

another example would be the weapons deal between france and australia i believe. america just rolled in there.
Influence and control are two different things.
 
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