Home
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Members
Current visitors
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe UPS Forum
UPS Union Issues
The Semantics and Deception of Contract Language vs. IBT Highlights..
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="InsideUPS" data-source="post: 1133064" data-attributes="member: 31414"><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Anyone that has ever filed a grievance and attempted to use the contract language to defend that grievance will appreciate the importance of fine details in our contract. For example.....in regard to the topic of SurePost..........Look at the two statements regarding the weight limit of SurePost packages. (actual language examples below)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p>1) In our IBT Highlight Flyer....the packages ARE LIMITED to 10 pounds in weight....</p><p></p><p>2) In the actual contract language....the SurePost weight limit magically turns into <u>NORMALLY 10 pounds</u>...... </p><p></p><p> which opens the door for just about any weight....</p><p></p><p>Lesson Learned - READ & UNDERSTAND the ACTUAL CONTRACT LANGUAGE....DO NOT RELY ON HIGHLIGHTS...SUMMARIES...WORD OF MOUTH, ETC.. DETERMINE WHAT LANGUAGE AFFECTS YOU THE MOST AND READ THAT LANGUAGE...BEFORE YOU VOTE......AND MOST OF ALL....BRING YOUR QUESTIONS TO THE LOCAL MEETING...AND VOICE YOUR CONCERNS.</p><p> </p><p></p><p><strong><u>Example 1A. SurePost Highlight from IBT Flyer</u></strong></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><u><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>Surepost packages are limited to 10 pounds in weight</strong> and less than 3 cubic feet in size.</span></u></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="font-size: 12px">Surepost is limited as an offering for busi- ness to residential only. It cannot be used for business-to-business shipments.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><u>Example 1B. SurePost Tentative Agreement Language</u></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><u><strong>Section 4 – Surepost </strong></u></span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><u><strong>1) In order to retain existing commercial customers that are solicited by a competitor offering services similar to those described herein, or to attract new commercial customers, the Company may offer service contracts that include the delivery of packages by the USPS. Packages eligible for such delivery<span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000"> will normally be less than ten (10) pound</span></span>s in weight and less than three (3) cubic feet in size, </strong></u></span><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InsideUPS, post: 1133064, member: 31414"] [SIZE=3]Anyone that has ever filed a grievance and attempted to use the contract language to defend that grievance will appreciate the importance of fine details in our contract. For example.....in regard to the topic of SurePost..........Look at the two statements regarding the weight limit of SurePost packages. (actual language examples below) [/SIZE] 1) In our IBT Highlight Flyer....the packages ARE LIMITED to 10 pounds in weight.... 2) In the actual contract language....the SurePost weight limit magically turns into [U]NORMALLY 10 pounds[/U]...... which opens the door for just about any weight.... Lesson Learned - READ & UNDERSTAND the ACTUAL CONTRACT LANGUAGE....DO NOT RELY ON HIGHLIGHTS...SUMMARIES...WORD OF MOUTH, ETC.. DETERMINE WHAT LANGUAGE AFFECTS YOU THE MOST AND READ THAT LANGUAGE...BEFORE YOU VOTE......AND MOST OF ALL....BRING YOUR QUESTIONS TO THE LOCAL MEETING...AND VOICE YOUR CONCERNS. [B][U]Example 1A. SurePost Highlight from IBT Flyer[/U][/B] [COLOR=#1a1a18][U][SIZE=3][B]Surepost packages are limited to 10 pounds in weight[/B] and less than 3 cubic feet in size.[/SIZE][/U][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][/SIZE][COLOR=#1a1a18][SIZE=3]Surepost is limited as an offering for busi- ness to residential only. It cannot be used for business-to-business shipments. [B][U]Example 1B. SurePost Tentative Agreement Language[/U][/B] [SIZE=3][U][B]Section 4 – Surepost [/B][/U][/SIZE][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=3][U][B]1) In order to retain existing commercial customers that are solicited by a competitor offering services similar to those described herein, or to attract new commercial customers, the Company may offer service contracts that include the delivery of packages by the USPS. Packages eligible for such delivery[SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000] will normally be less than ten (10) pound[/COLOR][/SIZE]s in weight and less than three (3) cubic feet in size, [/B][/U][/SIZE][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe UPS Forum
UPS Union Issues
The Semantics and Deception of Contract Language vs. IBT Highlights..
Top