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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 6087716" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>But the transgender identity goes for both sexes, not just for those who develop male physical traits but see themselves in their minds as women.  What about those whose parents were convinced their child was trans and had them physically altered and now that child is grown and is very upset that they can't be with the opposite sex or bear children?  The zeal to push this ideology has caused real world pain for quite a few people.</p></blockquote><p></p>