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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 143581" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Well said CTOTH. What I just have never understood is how people would on the one hand demand that gov't should do this and do that granting it more and more powers under the name of goodness, charity and nobility then rejoice and campaign when it's gov't does so but then act with disgust, objection, wailing and gnashing of teeth when the very principle nature of gov't itself displays it's true nature for all to see. There's another good quote although the author is unknown to me but it sure has application here IMO.</p><p> </p><p>"You can't have your cake and eat it too!"</p><p> </p><p>But then another in relation to granting gov't further and further powers to do this and that also comes to mind.</p><p> </p><p>"Be very careful in what you ask for because you might get it!"</p><p> </p><p>There is total and absolute security and it is available right now. It's called a "SuperMax" prison and just something to ponder in that consideration, 1 in 32 Americans are either in jail or on parole or probation at this moment. Ever thought of comparing that ratio to Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union during their most glorious days?</p><p> </p><p>A 1918' piece may however have said it best:</p><p><a href="http://antiwar.com/bourne.php" target="_blank">Part 1 of the unfinished essay: "The State" - Antiwar.com</a></p><p> </p><p>We've also done a pretty good job of allowing gov't to build to a point of being a war machine.</p><p><a href="http://www.mises.org/story/2355" target="_blank">A Century of War - Mises Institute</a></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><strong><em>"Schumpeter's analysis explains the particularly strong propensity of democratic states to engage in imperialist war making and why the Age of Democracy has coincided with the Age of Imperialism. The term "democratic" is here being used in the broad sense that includes "totalitarian democracies" controlled by "parties" such as the Nationalist Socialist Workers Party in Germany and the Communist Party in the Soviet Union. These political parties, as opposed to purely ideological movements, came into being during the age of nationalist mass democracy that dawned in the late nineteenth century. </em></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><strong><em></em></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><strong><em></em></strong><strong><em>Because the masses in a democratic polity are deeply imbued with the ideology of egalitarianism and the myth of majority rule, the ruling elites who control and benefit from the state recognize the utmost importance of concealing its oligarchic and exploitative nature from the masses. Continual war making against foreign enemies is a perfect way to disguise the naked clash of interests between the taxpaying and tax-consuming classes."</em></strong></span></p><p> <span style="color: red"></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black">source for above quote:</span> <a href="http://www.mises.org/story/2405" target="_blank">Imperialism and the Logic of War Making - Mises Institute</a></span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 143581, member: 2189"] Well said CTOTH. What I just have never understood is how people would on the one hand demand that gov't should do this and do that granting it more and more powers under the name of goodness, charity and nobility then rejoice and campaign when it's gov't does so but then act with disgust, objection, wailing and gnashing of teeth when the very principle nature of gov't itself displays it's true nature for all to see. There's another good quote although the author is unknown to me but it sure has application here IMO. "You can't have your cake and eat it too!" But then another in relation to granting gov't further and further powers to do this and that also comes to mind. "Be very careful in what you ask for because you might get it!" There is total and absolute security and it is available right now. It's called a "SuperMax" prison and just something to ponder in that consideration, 1 in 32 Americans are either in jail or on parole or probation at this moment. Ever thought of comparing that ratio to Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union during their most glorious days? A 1918' piece may however have said it best: [url=http://antiwar.com/bourne.php]Part 1 of the unfinished essay: "The State" - Antiwar.com[/url] We've also done a pretty good job of allowing gov't to build to a point of being a war machine. [url=http://www.mises.org/story/2355]A Century of War - Mises Institute[/url] [COLOR=red][B][I]"Schumpeter's analysis explains the particularly strong propensity of democratic states to engage in imperialist war making and why the Age of Democracy has coincided with the Age of Imperialism. The term "democratic" is here being used in the broad sense that includes "totalitarian democracies" controlled by "parties" such as the Nationalist Socialist Workers Party in Germany and the Communist Party in the Soviet Union. These political parties, as opposed to purely ideological movements, came into being during the age of nationalist mass democracy that dawned in the late nineteenth century. [/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][B][I] [/I][/B][B][I]Because the masses in a democratic polity are deeply imbued with the ideology of egalitarianism and the myth of majority rule, the ruling elites who control and benefit from the state recognize the utmost importance of concealing its oligarchic and exploitative nature from the masses. Continual war making against foreign enemies is a perfect way to disguise the naked clash of interests between the taxpaying and tax-consuming classes."[/I][/B] [B][/B] [COLOR=black]source for above quote:[/COLOR] [url=http://www.mises.org/story/2405]Imperialism and the Logic of War Making - Mises Institute[/url] [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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