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<blockquote data-quote="Channahon" data-source="post: 172295" data-attributes="member: 7666"><p>When I first joined this board, I joined as a UPSer. As I started reading the posts, it was evident that the majority of users are hourly employees, with a few management and retirees, both union and non union. </p><p> </p><p>I didn't think it would matter if you are management or hourly, as I thought the board was to express oneself as related to UPS. </p><p> </p><p>Taking criticism is difficult for most people, as we take pride in who we are and how we present ourselves. </p><p> </p><p>Now have there been some inappropiate actions on management and hourly jobs.</p><p>Sure, they've been posted on this board.</p><p>Has advice been given for resolution, sometimes, but only the employee who has the concern, can make the difference.</p><p> </p><p>It's not a perfect world within any organization. Human nature dictates our work ethic, what we choose to do for a living, what our goals are for ourselves and our families. Do all UPSer's come to work whistling and in a great mood? Some may, some may not. </p><p> </p><p>We all have our opinions and knowledge of UPS and a lot is shared and good advice given on this board. However, there is some mis-information given, and you'll have that on any board. </p><p> </p><p>The battle between Tie and Canon has grown to </p><p>a full blown war. As you can see by the number of viewings, their posts draw a lot of attention.</p><p>Why? Because in some way, people like conflict and want to see the next post. Maybe to see how heated things are getting, or if either Tie or Canon will retreat their positions against one another.</p><p> </p><p>My personal thoughts are both Tie and Canon </p><p>are very strong individuals with their opinions and attacks on one another. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Can Tie answer questions for all management? </p><p>Nobody can do that, I don't even think Corporate managers can speak to all of management issues. Is it fair to accuse him of sidestepping issues, he may not be able to answer? Does he possess overall UPS management philosoply? Sure he does, as do most UPS management.</p><p> </p><p>Canon has leadership qualities as shown by the number of supporters he has on this board. Is that because the majority of this board is union/teamsters? I would say no, it's because he is very articulate in his postings, gives a lot of thought into what he posts and how he presents himself.</p><p> </p><p>I have respect for both Tie and Canon as they both work for UPS. And in having respect for both, I would think they can put some of their posts behind them. Stop the name calling and belittling of each other. </p><p> </p><p>A better forum may be post the issues, have a moderator, present both sides of a debate/issue. Or conduct a poll, where everyone can participate, express a view and present the results.</p><p> </p><p><strong>Integrity, self respect and respect for others</strong> are the most important values anyone can possess. In both your personal and professional lives.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Channahon, post: 172295, member: 7666"] When I first joined this board, I joined as a UPSer. As I started reading the posts, it was evident that the majority of users are hourly employees, with a few management and retirees, both union and non union. I didn't think it would matter if you are management or hourly, as I thought the board was to express oneself as related to UPS. Taking criticism is difficult for most people, as we take pride in who we are and how we present ourselves. Now have there been some inappropiate actions on management and hourly jobs. Sure, they've been posted on this board. Has advice been given for resolution, sometimes, but only the employee who has the concern, can make the difference. It's not a perfect world within any organization. Human nature dictates our work ethic, what we choose to do for a living, what our goals are for ourselves and our families. Do all UPSer's come to work whistling and in a great mood? Some may, some may not. We all have our opinions and knowledge of UPS and a lot is shared and good advice given on this board. However, there is some mis-information given, and you'll have that on any board. The battle between Tie and Canon has grown to a full blown war. As you can see by the number of viewings, their posts draw a lot of attention. Why? Because in some way, people like conflict and want to see the next post. Maybe to see how heated things are getting, or if either Tie or Canon will retreat their positions against one another. My personal thoughts are both Tie and Canon are very strong individuals with their opinions and attacks on one another. Can Tie answer questions for all management? Nobody can do that, I don't even think Corporate managers can speak to all of management issues. Is it fair to accuse him of sidestepping issues, he may not be able to answer? Does he possess overall UPS management philosoply? Sure he does, as do most UPS management. Canon has leadership qualities as shown by the number of supporters he has on this board. Is that because the majority of this board is union/teamsters? I would say no, it's because he is very articulate in his postings, gives a lot of thought into what he posts and how he presents himself. I have respect for both Tie and Canon as they both work for UPS. And in having respect for both, I would think they can put some of their posts behind them. Stop the name calling and belittling of each other. A better forum may be post the issues, have a moderator, present both sides of a debate/issue. Or conduct a poll, where everyone can participate, express a view and present the results. [B]Integrity, self respect and respect for others[/B] are the most important values anyone can possess. In both your personal and professional lives. [/QUOTE]
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