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<blockquote data-quote="SameRightsForAll" data-source="post: 4156412" data-attributes="member: 10588"><p>2/3rds always favors something and is therefore not democratic at all. Only a simple majority election is fair, and if you want to argue turnout, nobody can prove the actual turnout unless a private database is put online where everyone who voted or was denied a vote can submit one and only one point to be heard, and this list can be compared to what Hoffa claimed was the turnout. I for one do not believe the turnout was anywhere near low. Management went aggressively ABOVE AND BEYOND in every center making sure everyone voted, and they even set up the office computers where a worker could vote as far as the reports on this site claim. Were these IBT sanctioned votes? Did they count? Was it just a survey appearing as a ballot? Nothing but crickets. Nobody dares ask questions, do they. My question is did the MASSIVE hire-in done shortly before the election add to the number of "required" voters for the purpose of the 2/3rds rule, and were any of these new voters disqualified for any reason at any point before or after they voted, before or after the election.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SameRightsForAll, post: 4156412, member: 10588"] 2/3rds always favors something and is therefore not democratic at all. Only a simple majority election is fair, and if you want to argue turnout, nobody can prove the actual turnout unless a private database is put online where everyone who voted or was denied a vote can submit one and only one point to be heard, and this list can be compared to what Hoffa claimed was the turnout. I for one do not believe the turnout was anywhere near low. Management went aggressively ABOVE AND BEYOND in every center making sure everyone voted, and they even set up the office computers where a worker could vote as far as the reports on this site claim. Were these IBT sanctioned votes? Did they count? Was it just a survey appearing as a ballot? Nothing but crickets. Nobody dares ask questions, do they. My question is did the MASSIVE hire-in done shortly before the election add to the number of "required" voters for the purpose of the 2/3rds rule, and were any of these new voters disqualified for any reason at any point before or after they voted, before or after the election. [/QUOTE]
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