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<blockquote data-quote="Bagels" data-source="post: 1192187" data-attributes="member: 43436"><p>I have asked for my account to be deleted, but I decided to respond to your ongoing Checker's speech <u>for my own satisfaction</u>: based on your own statements, which have been paraphrased in your favor, you admit that you made an assertion, I responded with my own, and then you attacked me personally (to the point in which a moderator edited your post) because you disagreed with what I wrote. I wrote that the economics of the contract were fair (I had other issues with it); UPSers will be compensated well for menial work. You took exception to me describing the work as menial... even though it requires no previous experience, people are trained in days and similar jobs pay a fraction of the wage - hence meeting the definition of menial. (For the record, when I was 20, I had never driven a van nor a manual transmission and my manager allowed me to drive around the yard for several days until I got the hang of it ... I began seasonal driving days after turning 21.) "Nobody can or wants to do the job I do... except for those contract feeder drivers doing it for half the wage and without the benefits. And those tens of thousands of PTers. And those tens of thousands of off-the-street applicants."</p><p></p><p>I do take exception with the FTers & retirees on here encouraging PTers to join them in "unity" and "brotherhood" in fighting such a poor contract... when really the FTers and retirees (if they could vote) would vote YES if a tentative contract doubled their wages & benefits at the expense of stripping PTers'. That's manipulation, not unity nor brotherhood.</p><p></p><p>Given the support those who have expressed their desire for me to exit have received, I agree it's best I do so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bagels, post: 1192187, member: 43436"] I have asked for my account to be deleted, but I decided to respond to your ongoing Checker's speech [U]for my own satisfaction[/U]: based on your own statements, which have been paraphrased in your favor, you admit that you made an assertion, I responded with my own, and then you attacked me personally (to the point in which a moderator edited your post) because you disagreed with what I wrote. I wrote that the economics of the contract were fair (I had other issues with it); UPSers will be compensated well for menial work. You took exception to me describing the work as menial... even though it requires no previous experience, people are trained in days and similar jobs pay a fraction of the wage - hence meeting the definition of menial. (For the record, when I was 20, I had never driven a van nor a manual transmission and my manager allowed me to drive around the yard for several days until I got the hang of it ... I began seasonal driving days after turning 21.) "Nobody can or wants to do the job I do... except for those contract feeder drivers doing it for half the wage and without the benefits. And those tens of thousands of PTers. And those tens of thousands of off-the-street applicants." I do take exception with the FTers & retirees on here encouraging PTers to join them in "unity" and "brotherhood" in fighting such a poor contract... when really the FTers and retirees (if they could vote) would vote YES if a tentative contract doubled their wages & benefits at the expense of stripping PTers'. That's manipulation, not unity nor brotherhood. Given the support those who have expressed their desire for me to exit have received, I agree it's best I do so. [/QUOTE]
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