Tip of the Hat to the Obama Adminstration

[moreluck]

D,

I ask questions all the time.......Hey B.O., how much will this program cost me ??? I just don't get any answers to my questions. Instead I get flowery language laced with words like change & promise & hope and transparency. It's pathetic !!

 

[Babagounj]

I have a question ,too.
Who will make millions upon millions from the health care reforms ?
Will it be the XX millions that they claim currently have no insurance or friends of BHO ?

 

[wkmac]

Not really, exposes the CON in CONservatism....Stop falling for everything you hear Moreluck....Ask questions, dissent if warranted, and stand for indivdualism across the board, not just selectivly.








Top Five Marijuana Myths

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• Marijuana Has No Medicinal Value
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• Marijuana Interferes With Male and Female Sex Hormones
• Marijuana Use During Pregnancy Damages the Fetus
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• Marijuana's Active Ingredient, THC, Gets Trapped in Body Fat
• Marijuana Use is a Major Cause Of Highway Accidents
• Marijuana Related Hospital Emergencies Are Increasing, Particularly Among Youth
• Marijuana Use Can Be Prevented

Your opinion is welcomed, until the part where you mention
"they are just not grown up". I guess you have to be "grown up" to sulk in alcohol and anti-depressant drugs. Synthetically man-made substances which can kill you if heavily ingested vs a naturally grown product which has some medicinal purposes and nobody has ever OD'ed on....But then again, being a grown up, it's all about moderation and individual responsibilty. For God's sakes, the sun, fatty foods ,shell fish and peanuts can kill ....BTW....I have'nt smoke pot in years, but the day after retirement, this "grown up" is going to roll "a fatty", grab a Corona, munch on a bag of peanuts while soaking up the sun sitting at the beach, order a shrimp cocktail and a cheeseburger in paradise, and decompress from the last thirty years of UPS bondage...

Reminds me of the ole' days of blotter acid and good ole' Mr. Natural

Here's a story out of Oakland you might find interesting and pertaining to a comment you made earlier about the economic impact aspect. One thing to keep in mind not to rain or your parade but marijuana can be homegrown by-passing the tax revenue aspect. I'm resistant to the state and taxation obviously but because of the homegrown potential I'm resistant to oversell the tax benefits in case human nature dampens those expectation and we get the naysayers with the "I told you so!".

Taxation is still a point worth making and initially could prove very valid.

Good post above too not just on marijuana either.

BTW: the drugs of choice today come from drug stores not drug dealers so I think you and I would agree, there are others here who need to grow up!

 

[diesel96]

Reminds me of the ole' days of blotter acid and good ole' Mr. Natural

Here's a story out of Oakland you might find interesting and pertaining to a comment you made earlier about the economic impact aspect. One thing to keep in mind not to rain or your parade but marijuana can be homegrown by-passing the tax revenue aspect. I'm resistant to the state and taxation obviously but because of the homegrown potential I'm resistant to oversell the tax benefits in case human nature dampens those expectation and we get the naysayers with the "I told you so!".

Taxation is still a point worth making and initially could prove very valid.

Good post above too not just on marijuana either.

BTW: the drugs of choice today come from drug stores not drug dealers so I think you and I would agree, there are others here who need to grow up!

I learn of Oaksterdam when visiting my sis in the Bay area a few years back....And it's true of the economic impact it's contribuated to the community there....

As far as Drug Stores, your absolutely right. Take one example of an over the counter drug like Sudafed, a main ingredient in Meth. Good luck getting the FDA and it's partner, Big Pharma, to get that drug behind the counter in the form of an Rx.....

The "grown up" comment is based on my experience that it is not good for the individual and ultimately the American public. Public based on youth onberving and deciding: "hey, if they do it, it must be OK".
I have several kids and I pray that they don't pick up a joint. I did way too much and missed a lot of opportunities. Every single person that I ever saw stoned, looked and acted stupid. EVERY ONE!
How can that be good? Is that an individual right? Does that in any way affect anyone else? I think so. Just my 2 cents.

There are many temptations available to our kids out there worse than pot, and as Parents, we should be able to detect who and what our kids are involved with, and we can instill values and encourage our kids in sports and activities to keep them occupied. But ,there will always be down time when we as parents are not around, and hopefully our tudoring takes effect.

You'd be surprised how many people we run into, and we are not aware they are "buzzed" on pot because they don't show symptoms of the obvious everyday "Stoners" like Wayne and Garth or Beavis and Butthead....

D,

I ask questions all the time.......Hey B.O., how much will this program cost me ??? I just don't get any answers to my questions. Instead I get flowery language laced with words like change & promise & hope and transparency. It's pathetic !!

Moreluck, flowery laced language? We haven't seen great orator skills since the Cold War in the form of the Big Spendor/Actor/Communicator Ron Reagan. Originator of the failed experiment "Reagonomics" trickle down economics....
Now, when faced with an opportunity for the Gov't to make serious revenue to pay for programs, we should encourage Washington to proceed. Would you participate in a million man "Pot Party" instead of Tea Party in DC...

 

[Dis-organized Labor]

Don't be so touchy.
Just my opinions here.

 

[moreluck]

Nope, never smoked pot !!!

As far as flowery orators, Billy Bob Clinton was a silk tongued talker too.

 

[Babagounj]

MYFOX NATIONAL) - Men who smoke pot regularly may want to put down the reefer. New research out of Australia shows a link between pot smoking and sexual health problems for men.

Professor Anthony Smith works at the Research Center at La Trobe University in Melbourne. According to his university study men who smoke pot daily are four times more likely to have trouble climaxing than men who aren't lighting up.


According to stuff.co.nz the study took in more than 8,600 people, aged 16 to 64, who were surveyed by telephone as part of the Australian Longitudinal Study of Health and Relationships.


Smith says the findings suggest these men don't see this as a sexual health problem though and they may even be using the cannabis to actually delay their orgasm. While many pot smoking men may be having sexual problems, the study also found they have more partners then non-pot smokers.

 

[1989]

Until about 4 years ago I used to buy pot about once a week. Now it's only about once a month. I don't think that state laws should trump national laws.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I don't think that state laws should trump national laws.

What if the issue in question has little or no national interest but could have an impact at the state level?

 

[wkmac]

Baba,

Here's a study that sez the same basic thing about alcohol when consumed in excess (daily smoking of marijuana for recreation IMO is excess) and yet alcohol is completely legal and accessible. If you consume food to excess you get fat and this restricts bloodflow which in turn causes lost of sexual desire. Obesity has been the best thing for Viagra and other "male enhancement" drugs. Should we ban food too because excessive daily consumption affects sex life?

I've no doubt that smoking marijuana in excess (daily and I agree that is excessive) will have some adverse effects but so does alcohol and so does food consumption to access. Anything to excess always has bad consequences. Just look at gov't!

 

[wkmac]

I don't think that state laws should trump national laws.

That issue was settled in the 1860's so don't worry.

 

[Babagounj]

Baba Anything to excess always has bad consequences. Just look at gov't!

Good point.

 

[Jones]

Why is it bad to smoke weed and OK to sell beer?
Michael Phelps smoked a bong, Lance Armstrong is pushing alcohol. Why is Phelps the bad guy?
By David Sirota
Oct. 24, 2009 |
For better or worse, our American Idiocracy has come to rely on athletes as national pedagogues. Michael Jordan educated the country about commitment and just doing it. A.C. Green lectured us about sexual caution. Serena Williams and John McEnroe taught us what sportsmanship is -- and is not. And Charles Barkley outlined how society should define role models.

So when a single week like this one sees both the Justice Department back states' medical marijuana laws, and a Gallup poll shows record-level support for pot legalization, we can look to two superjocks -- Lance Armstrong and Michael Phelps -- for the key lesson about our absurd drug policy.

This Tale of Two Supermen began in February when Phelps, the gold-medal swimmer, was plastered all over national newspapers in a photo that showed him hitting a marijuana bong. Though he was smoking in private, the image ignited a public firestorm. USA Swimming suspended Phelps, Kellogg pulled its endorsement deal and the Associated Press sensationalized the incident as a national decision about whether heroes should "be perfect or flawed."

The alleged imperfection was Phelps’ decision to quietly consume a substance that "poses a much less serious public health problem than is currently posed by alcohol," as a redacted World Health Organization report admits. That's a finding confirmed by almost every objective science-based analysis, including a landmark University of California study in 2006 showing "no association at all" between marijuana use and cancer.

Alcohol, by contrast, causes roughly one in 30 of the world's cancer cases, according to the International Journal of Cancer. And a new report by Cancer Epidemiology journal shows that even beer, seemingly the least potent drink, may increase the odds of developing tumors.

Which brings us to Armstrong. This month, the Tour de France champion who beat cancer inked a contract to hawk Anheuser-Busch’s alcohol. That's right, less than a year after Phelps was crucified for merely smoking weed in private, few noticed or protested the planet's most famous cancer survivor becoming the public face of a possible carcinogen.

"Apparently, it’s perfectly acceptable for a world-class athlete to endorse a substance like alcohol that contributes to thousands of deaths each year, as well as hundreds of thousands of violent crimes and injuries," says Mason Tvert, a co-author of the new book "Marijuana Is Safer." "Yet a world-class athlete like Michael Phelps is ridiculed, punished and forced to apologize for marijuana, the use of which contributes to zero deaths, and has never been linked to violent or reckless behavior. Why the double standard?"

The data prove the answer isn't about health, and our culture proves it isn't about widespread allegiance to "Just Say No" abstinence. After all, whether through liquor commercials, wine magazines, beer-named stadiums or cocktail-drenched office parties, our society is constantly encouraging us to get our liquid high.

No, the double standard is about know-nothing statutes and attitudes promoting the recreational use of alcohol and banning the similar use of marijuana -- all thanks to retrograde mythologies of post-'60s Americana. In our now-dominant backlash folklore, the patriots are the straitlaced Joe and Jane Sixpacks -- and the Armstrongs who encourage their drinking. Meanwhile, the supposed evildoers are the pot-smoking Cheeches, Chongs and Phelpses, whose marijuana use allegedly underscores a dangerous hippie-ness.

Ergo, the moral of this Tale of Two Supermen: To end contradictions in narcotics policy and permit safer recreational drug choices, we have to first reject the outdated Silent Majority-vs.-Counterculture iconography that defines so much of our politics. We must, in other words, replace caricatures with scientific facts and mature into something more than an Idiocracy.

We should all be able to imbibe -- or inhale -- to that.

© 2009 Creators.com
-- By David Sirota

 

[JimJimmyJames]

America was never not about getting high, it is about making sure you pay a corporation for the priviledge of doing so.

And let's not forget the government needs to get their slice too.

Take gambling. It is only worng if the government can't get "their" share.

Getting back to your article, marijunana smoke must be bad for you, right? Is any smoke inside your lungs good? Just saying...