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<blockquote data-quote="Benben" data-source="post: 3712649" data-attributes="member: 25133">Explain yourself please.&nbsp; Just because you said it is so does not make it the truth!&nbsp; The Auto industry&#039;s 2 tier wage structure is NOT comparing apples to oranges, it is very salient to the topic at hand!&nbsp; your opinion is way off base!Here&#039;s the facts &quot;brother&quot;, we lose money with this contract!&nbsp; The minuscule increase in pay does NOT EVEN BEGIN TO COVER INFLATION!&nbsp; I still have to feed my family and cloth my kids.&nbsp; As far as your digression of running to the all compressing rebuttal of &quot;blah blah you haven&#039;t negotiated a contract before, blah blah...&quot; Your right, we have not but we would not have allowed discipline because of some report printed out the next morning by someone unable to do my job at the level I work at.&nbsp; We would have seen from the outset that they will advance loads and hold back loads in order to work the second class drivers more and &quot;starve&quot; out the current seniority drivers more while hiding behind, &quot;if work is available.&quot;&nbsp; We would have seen the language contractually allowing them to use scabs and coyotes!&nbsp; I mean no offense to you but I don&#039;t see any &quot;negotiating&quot; in this contract done on my behalf.&nbsp; I see everything as pretty much status quo from the previous contract.&nbsp; Just about the same dollar figures, (don&#039;t give me that crap about PT wage increases.&nbsp; That is being driven by minimum wage increases in cities across the country and the fact that PTers can make more $ flipping burgers at McDonald&#039;s at 1/2 the work load) Same progressions, A little more to pensions (only if we can make it 30 years without our bodies being broken) And the company can now bring in a second class driver to replace me and contractually take my work!Not if the Union actually was working in my best interest.&nbsp; The majority of us feel like we are being stabbed in the back by those we pay to represent us!&quot;uniformed cause&quot;&nbsp; Explain yourself!&nbsp; You have said numerous times you have not advocated for or against the contract.&nbsp; Your statement right there belies your previous words unless I am misunderstanding you!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Benben, post: 3712649, member: 25133"] Explain yourself please. Just because you said it is so does not make it the truth! The Auto industry's 2 tier wage structure is [B]NOT[/B] comparing apples to oranges, it is very salient to the topic at hand! your opinion is way off base! Here's the facts "brother", we lose money with this contract! The minuscule increase in pay does [U]NOT EVEN BEGIN TO COVER INFLATION![/U] [B]I still have to feed my family and cloth my kids. [/B] As far as your digression of running to the all compressing rebuttal of "blah blah you haven't negotiated a contract before, blah blah..." Your right, we have not but we would [U]not have allowed[/U] discipline because of some report printed out the next morning by someone unable to do my job at the level I work at. We would have seen from the outset that they will advance loads and hold back loads in order to work the second class drivers more and "starve" out the current seniority drivers more while hiding behind, "if work is available." We would have seen the language contractually allowing them to use scabs and coyotes! I mean no offense to you but I don't see any "negotiating" in this contract done on my behalf. I see everything as pretty much status quo from the previous contract. Just about the same dollar figures, (don't give me that crap about PT wage increases. That is being driven by minimum wage increases in cities across the country and the fact that PTers can make more $ flipping burgers at McDonald's at 1/2 the work load) Same progressions, A little more to pensions (only if we can make it 30 years without our bodies being broken) [B]And the company can now bring in a second class driver to replace me and contractually take my work![/B] Not if the Union actually was working in my best interest. The majority of us feel like we are being stabbed in the back by those we pay to represent us! "uniformed cause" Explain yourself! You have said numerous times you have not advocated for or against the contract. Your statement right there belies your previous words unless I am misunderstanding you! [/QUOTE]

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