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<blockquote data-quote="BrownBrokeDown" data-source="post: 1155732" data-attributes="member: 46824"><p>Listen, even if the TA doesn't pass (and I voted no, this thing needs punted into the sewers) we are not going to strike and the healthcare in the TA will still be there in the next TA. Honestly, this proposed healthcare, while substantially inferior to what I have now, is pretty good compared with the rest of corporate america. All of the US's healthcare has either a.) became worse, b.)became more expensive, or c.)both in the last 6 years or so. </p><p></p><p>Also, we will not strike because no matter how much certain people scream it, unfortunately Hoffa Jr. is not OG. It is not inherited. And actually in some cases that is a bad thing. What Hoffa Jr. is, is a businessman. This contract reeks of a vendor, if you will, selling a service to customer for years that has been underbid and must make some concessions to keep the business. My grandfather was a 30 year teamster from the 50's into the early 80's and the leaders in those days (even if they were crooks) would not have accepted this contract. They wouldn't have cared about public perception, and we would be coming out with a contract at least equal to the previous one. However, times do change and today's economy is not the same as it was then.</p><p></p><p>Am I happy about the healthcare...not really. I have a family of 5 and my wife had 2 surgeries and 6 weeks of chemo and radiation last year for cancer under the current UPS healthcare and trust me, the new one would have cost me a significant (to me) amount more. /raises beer...Here's to they will not screw me on the Driver class and TCD this time around, I know their game now.</p><p></p><p>What people should be more concerned about, because this can be changed is the following:</p><p>1.)retiree healthcare costs. What should be done is current retirees should have their cost frozen, and future retirees can pay the higher amount. not great but much more than that and an in the black healthcare could wind up in the red.</p><p>2.)driver progression. yeah a initial raise but you take away some of the raises and add a 4th year of progression. Get rid of the 4th year, or bump starting pay to at least $20/hr</p><p>3.)part time pay. yeah a raise of $1.50, but they take away the $1 90-day raise, in progression pt'ers get the gwi (do we still get progression raise? not even my ba could answer that one), and out of progression get nothing. Needs either bumped another dollar or 90 day needs to come back. also in progression should get bigger bump and out of progression should get something.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownBrokeDown, post: 1155732, member: 46824"] Listen, even if the TA doesn't pass (and I voted no, this thing needs punted into the sewers) we are not going to strike and the healthcare in the TA will still be there in the next TA. Honestly, this proposed healthcare, while substantially inferior to what I have now, is pretty good compared with the rest of corporate america. All of the US's healthcare has either a.) became worse, b.)became more expensive, or c.)both in the last 6 years or so. Also, we will not strike because no matter how much certain people scream it, unfortunately Hoffa Jr. is not OG. It is not inherited. And actually in some cases that is a bad thing. What Hoffa Jr. is, is a businessman. This contract reeks of a vendor, if you will, selling a service to customer for years that has been underbid and must make some concessions to keep the business. My grandfather was a 30 year teamster from the 50's into the early 80's and the leaders in those days (even if they were crooks) would not have accepted this contract. They wouldn't have cared about public perception, and we would be coming out with a contract at least equal to the previous one. However, times do change and today's economy is not the same as it was then. Am I happy about the healthcare...not really. I have a family of 5 and my wife had 2 surgeries and 6 weeks of chemo and radiation last year for cancer under the current UPS healthcare and trust me, the new one would have cost me a significant (to me) amount more. /raises beer...Here's to they will not screw me on the Driver class and TCD this time around, I know their game now. What people should be more concerned about, because this can be changed is the following: 1.)retiree healthcare costs. What should be done is current retirees should have their cost frozen, and future retirees can pay the higher amount. not great but much more than that and an in the black healthcare could wind up in the red. 2.)driver progression. yeah a initial raise but you take away some of the raises and add a 4th year of progression. Get rid of the 4th year, or bump starting pay to at least $20/hr 3.)part time pay. yeah a raise of $1.50, but they take away the $1 90-day raise, in progression pt'ers get the gwi (do we still get progression raise? not even my ba could answer that one), and out of progression get nothing. Needs either bumped another dollar or 90 day needs to come back. also in progression should get bigger bump and out of progression should get something. [/QUOTE]
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