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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1140173" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Really STINK? Does your local have you on a intravenous drip bag of BULLCHITT?</p><p></p><p>If it came down to a stike ( that nobody wants) then that aspect falls onto the COMPANY, not our members. We work hard, we work long hours, we get injured. For those sacrifices, you want to accept concessions while the company spends millions of dollars on a ferrari race team?</p><p></p><p>You attempt to compare apples to oranges with the suggestion of our pay vs FEDEX. FEDEX drivers dont work HALF as hard as the typical UPS driver. FEDEX drivers have to take mandatory 2 or 3 hour lunches on some days. FEDEX drivers are heading in to the hub before 6pm while guys like me still have 70 stops left at 6pm. I MAKE MORE THAN A FEDEX DRIVER because I EARN IT.</p><p></p><p>You are either out of your freaking mind or simply out of touch with reality or you have your head so far up your B.A.'s rear end you cant get a breath of fresh air.</p><p></p><p>Are you really this dense?</p><p></p><p>I could care less about UPS losing money on UPS freight. Thats their problem. They decided to jump into the LTL business, not the members. </p><p></p><p>We are the highest paid workers in the nation because we are the most worked workers in the nation. Show me another delivery company working its members 12 hours a day 5 days a week. Show me another delivery company that gives its drivers over 200 stops a day with pickups. Show me another delivery company that requires its drivers to achieve such high production standards. Show me another delivery company whos trucks are so blown out they cant even walk down the middle of the isle and have to climb over boxes just to find ONE BOX. Show me another small package delivery company going to a mall and staying there making deliveries from 930am to 900pm everyday.</p><p></p><p>The problem with guys like you STINK, is that you are incapable of calculating reality. You rely on what you are told by whoever is fingering your sphinter and moving your lips.</p><p></p><p>Every local went to the two man meeting and voted BEFORE they addressed the membership. Its called union politics. None of them are smarter than you are.</p><p></p><p>They all play big shots , but look at what we got.</p><p></p><p>hall and HOFFA both stated clearly and forcefully, that "WE WILL NOT ALLOW OUR MEMBERS TO PAY 90 dollars, 9 dollars or 9 cents"... this was the battlecry for months. THEN , as they turned on a dime and left 9 cents change for us, they SCREWED us by offering the company an opportunity to take away OUR health care benefits.</p><p></p><p>Brother HALL was right, we werent going to spend 90/9/.09, instead, we are going to pay in the THOUSANDS!</p><p></p><p>You have been asked several times by ME, and many others to JUSTIFY your position for a yes vote, and you cannot put two words together to do so.</p><p></p><p>You throw in amazon and zappos as some kind of threat to us, but listen carefully, PHUQUE both those companies. IF THEY WALK, then thats on UPS for even starting this mess. Will it hurt? You bet your puppet a$h it will, but maybe then, the company will not attempt these kinds of negotiations with its employees.</p><p></p><p>Both Zappos and Amazon know that UPS is a profitable company and in a position to settle its labor issues without sacrificing its customers and the threat isnt against the members, but rather against the corporation for attempting to disrupt a peaceful working relationship.</p><p></p><p>I WILL GLADLY walk to maintain my benefits and those benefits of my brothers and sisters who would be greatly affected. I WILL GLADLY walk for my part time brothers and sisters who are being screwed for another year longer with this contract. I WILL WALK to take back the $15K that EVERY part time worker will lose when promoted to full time because of the extension of progression.</p><p></p><p>I could care less if amazon ever came back. I could care less if Scott D. had to go to Amazon and personally kneel in front of Jeff Bezos and handle business just to get packages back into the system, thats just a position he put himself in when he took on the membership.</p><p></p><p>I voted for HOFFA, and I believe that HE and HALL are both WEAK in these negotiations. Its that simple. IF HOFFA /HALL ever wanted to give TDU an opportunity to take over at the top, then this contract will do just that. I dont support TDU, but I believe that this contract alone ( if passed ) will ultimately be the tipping point for the direction of the teamsters.</p><p></p><p>All TDU will have to do is put up a candidate who isnt marred up, legitimately involved in union politics and rest will be history.</p><p></p><p>You cheer loudly today about this contract, but you'll hear me later when what I say comes true.</p><p></p><p>The membership would respect HOFFA/HALL if they listened to us, and took this offer off the table and came to the membership and said they "HEARD US" loud and clear.</p><p></p><p>Peace</p><p></p><p>TOS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1140173, member: 17969"] Really STINK? Does your local have you on a intravenous drip bag of BULLCHITT? If it came down to a stike ( that nobody wants) then that aspect falls onto the COMPANY, not our members. We work hard, we work long hours, we get injured. For those sacrifices, you want to accept concessions while the company spends millions of dollars on a ferrari race team? You attempt to compare apples to oranges with the suggestion of our pay vs FEDEX. FEDEX drivers dont work HALF as hard as the typical UPS driver. FEDEX drivers have to take mandatory 2 or 3 hour lunches on some days. FEDEX drivers are heading in to the hub before 6pm while guys like me still have 70 stops left at 6pm. I MAKE MORE THAN A FEDEX DRIVER because I EARN IT. You are either out of your freaking mind or simply out of touch with reality or you have your head so far up your B.A.'s rear end you cant get a breath of fresh air. Are you really this dense? I could care less about UPS losing money on UPS freight. Thats their problem. They decided to jump into the LTL business, not the members. We are the highest paid workers in the nation because we are the most worked workers in the nation. Show me another delivery company working its members 12 hours a day 5 days a week. Show me another delivery company that gives its drivers over 200 stops a day with pickups. Show me another delivery company that requires its drivers to achieve such high production standards. Show me another delivery company whos trucks are so blown out they cant even walk down the middle of the isle and have to climb over boxes just to find ONE BOX. Show me another small package delivery company going to a mall and staying there making deliveries from 930am to 900pm everyday. The problem with guys like you STINK, is that you are incapable of calculating reality. You rely on what you are told by whoever is fingering your sphinter and moving your lips. Every local went to the two man meeting and voted BEFORE they addressed the membership. Its called union politics. None of them are smarter than you are. They all play big shots , but look at what we got. hall and HOFFA both stated clearly and forcefully, that "WE WILL NOT ALLOW OUR MEMBERS TO PAY 90 dollars, 9 dollars or 9 cents"... this was the battlecry for months. THEN , as they turned on a dime and left 9 cents change for us, they SCREWED us by offering the company an opportunity to take away OUR health care benefits. Brother HALL was right, we werent going to spend 90/9/.09, instead, we are going to pay in the THOUSANDS! You have been asked several times by ME, and many others to JUSTIFY your position for a yes vote, and you cannot put two words together to do so. You throw in amazon and zappos as some kind of threat to us, but listen carefully, PHUQUE both those companies. IF THEY WALK, then thats on UPS for even starting this mess. Will it hurt? You bet your puppet a$h it will, but maybe then, the company will not attempt these kinds of negotiations with its employees. Both Zappos and Amazon know that UPS is a profitable company and in a position to settle its labor issues without sacrificing its customers and the threat isnt against the members, but rather against the corporation for attempting to disrupt a peaceful working relationship. I WILL GLADLY walk to maintain my benefits and those benefits of my brothers and sisters who would be greatly affected. I WILL GLADLY walk for my part time brothers and sisters who are being screwed for another year longer with this contract. I WILL WALK to take back the $15K that EVERY part time worker will lose when promoted to full time because of the extension of progression. I could care less if amazon ever came back. I could care less if Scott D. had to go to Amazon and personally kneel in front of Jeff Bezos and handle business just to get packages back into the system, thats just a position he put himself in when he took on the membership. I voted for HOFFA, and I believe that HE and HALL are both WEAK in these negotiations. Its that simple. IF HOFFA /HALL ever wanted to give TDU an opportunity to take over at the top, then this contract will do just that. I dont support TDU, but I believe that this contract alone ( if passed ) will ultimately be the tipping point for the direction of the teamsters. All TDU will have to do is put up a candidate who isnt marred up, legitimately involved in union politics and rest will be history. You cheer loudly today about this contract, but you'll hear me later when what I say comes true. The membership would respect HOFFA/HALL if they listened to us, and took this offer off the table and came to the membership and said they "HEARD US" loud and clear. Peace TOS [/QUOTE]
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