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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1719892" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>People like you are confusing at times, make that, all the time.</p><p></p><p>On one hand you say "secure the borders", as if that is going to solve the immigration problems. Its a known fact, and I have pointed this out time after time on this board, and yet, people like you still believe wholeheartedly, that securing the border is the "key" to solving immigration.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, you want people to come here "LEGALLY" and screened first, and then you would be ok with it.</p><p></p><p>But what you cant get through <strong>YOUR</strong> thick skull, is that the majority of immigrants who come to this country, come here LEGALLY and are SCREENED FIRST.</p><p></p><p>How many times do I have to review this crap with you types??</p><p></p><p>Why are you so stuck on BORDER security as a fix all to the immigration problem?</p><p></p><p>Why are there so many chinese, korean, japanese, vietnamese,Indian hindu/sikh, canadian and european immigrants in this country who are illegal? Did they all run across the desert with the hispanics???</p><p></p><p>How come, you people just dont understand the real problem with immigration??? Why are you so stuck on building WALLS and putting marines arm in arm acrosss texas to california as if that will solve the problem?</p><p></p><p>Lets review once again how immigrants come here <strong>LEGALLY</strong> and then become ILLEGAL... see if you can comprehend it this time around, ok?</p><p></p><p>1) 41% of all illegal aliens in this country arrived <strong>LEGALLY</strong> through TOURIST VISAS and then overstay the visa and become (repeat after me) <strong>ILLEGAL</strong>.</p><p></p><p>2) 19% of all illegal aliens in this country arrived <strong>LEGALLY</strong> through STUDENT VISAS and then overstay the visa and become (repeat after me) <strong>ILLEGAL</strong>.</p><p></p><p>3) 17% of all illegal aliens in this country arrived <strong>LEGALLY</strong> through GUEST WORKER VISAS and then overtstay the visa and become (repeat after me) <strong>ILLEGAL</strong>.</p><p></p><p>That leaves 23% that jump across a USA border someplace in the USA. Of that 23% that do border jump, you have to divide that number by three distinct borders.</p><p></p><p>Canada, the East Coast and the Southwest States.</p><p></p><p>4) of all the border jumpers who ILLEGALLY cross the Canadian border, 9% of the 23% come via Canada.</p><p>5) of all the border jumpers who ILLEGALLY cross the East Coast border, 7% of the 23% come via the East Coast.</p><p>6) of all the border jumpers who ILLEGALLY cross the Southwest border, 7% of the 23% come via the South West border.</p><p></p><p>Of the 7% that come across the Southwest border, you have to divide that by 4 States or roughly 1.75% per state in the SouthWest.</p><p></p><p>Now, you want to build a GIANT WALL across the southwest border to solve 7% of the problem????? How many billions if not trillions will have to be spent on construction, maintenance and operations over the years to prevent a measly 1.75% per state??</p><p></p><p>93% of the immigration problem will continue to flood the country while <strong>YOU</strong> and the other "<strong>YAY MURRICA</strong>" types will run this country into deeper debt building a wall to nowhere, thinking you have the problem solved. Each state along with the government should use reasonable operations to control our border for sure, but spending billions of dollars to build a wall that will have a near ZERO effect on immigration is laughable at best.</p><p></p><p>All the right wing talk of walls is nothing more than "stupid" food for those inclined to eat off that plate.</p><p></p><p>If you people actually kept track of illegal immigration, you would know how they care coming here. Of course, its a lot simpler to just pretend that every illegal comes here illegally and runs across the desert dragging their children.</p><p></p><p>Think it out bro, think it out.</p><p></p><p>TOS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1719892, member: 17969"] People like you are confusing at times, make that, all the time. On one hand you say "secure the borders", as if that is going to solve the immigration problems. Its a known fact, and I have pointed this out time after time on this board, and yet, people like you still believe wholeheartedly, that securing the border is the "key" to solving immigration. On the other hand, you want people to come here "LEGALLY" and screened first, and then you would be ok with it. But what you cant get through [B]YOUR[/B] thick skull, is that the majority of immigrants who come to this country, come here LEGALLY and are SCREENED FIRST. How many times do I have to review this crap with you types?? Why are you so stuck on BORDER security as a fix all to the immigration problem? Why are there so many chinese, korean, japanese, vietnamese,Indian hindu/sikh, canadian and european immigrants in this country who are illegal? Did they all run across the desert with the hispanics??? How come, you people just dont understand the real problem with immigration??? Why are you so stuck on building WALLS and putting marines arm in arm acrosss texas to california as if that will solve the problem? Lets review once again how immigrants come here [B]LEGALLY[/B] and then become ILLEGAL... see if you can comprehend it this time around, ok? 1) 41% of all illegal aliens in this country arrived [B]LEGALLY[/B] through TOURIST VISAS and then overstay the visa and become (repeat after me) [B]ILLEGAL[/B]. 2) 19% of all illegal aliens in this country arrived [B]LEGALLY[/B] through STUDENT VISAS and then overstay the visa and become (repeat after me) [B]ILLEGAL[/B]. 3) 17% of all illegal aliens in this country arrived [B]LEGALLY[/B] through GUEST WORKER VISAS and then overtstay the visa and become (repeat after me) [B]ILLEGAL[/B]. That leaves 23% that jump across a USA border someplace in the USA. Of that 23% that do border jump, you have to divide that number by three distinct borders. Canada, the East Coast and the Southwest States. 4) of all the border jumpers who ILLEGALLY cross the Canadian border, 9% of the 23% come via Canada. 5) of all the border jumpers who ILLEGALLY cross the East Coast border, 7% of the 23% come via the East Coast. 6) of all the border jumpers who ILLEGALLY cross the Southwest border, 7% of the 23% come via the South West border. Of the 7% that come across the Southwest border, you have to divide that by 4 States or roughly 1.75% per state in the SouthWest. Now, you want to build a GIANT WALL across the southwest border to solve 7% of the problem????? How many billions if not trillions will have to be spent on construction, maintenance and operations over the years to prevent a measly 1.75% per state?? 93% of the immigration problem will continue to flood the country while [B]YOU[/B] and the other "[B]YAY MURRICA[/B]" types will run this country into deeper debt building a wall to nowhere, thinking you have the problem solved. Each state along with the government should use reasonable operations to control our border for sure, but spending billions of dollars to build a wall that will have a near ZERO effect on immigration is laughable at best. All the right wing talk of walls is nothing more than "stupid" food for those inclined to eat off that plate. If you people actually kept track of illegal immigration, you would know how they care coming here. Of course, its a lot simpler to just pretend that every illegal comes here illegally and runs across the desert dragging their children. Think it out bro, think it out. TOS. [/QUOTE]
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