Home
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Members
Current visitors
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe Community Center
Current Events
trump 2016
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1977074" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Pretty early on actually. Just 2 examples, May 2009, <a href="http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090503_buying_brand_obama" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>"Buying Brand Obama"</strong></span></a> and Aug. 2008', <a href="http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080831_curb_your_enthusiasm_for_obama" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>"Curb Your Enthusiasm for Obama"</strong></span></a>.</p><p></p><p>Hedges conclusions of what should be done you may not agree, some I don't agree with either but Chris does offer a critique that shows Obama is not what he portrayed himself to be and that turned out to be fairly true. But in defense of Obama, I find that to be fairly true of every person who runs for President. Thus the argument that something or someone else owns that office and dictates terms to anyone who enters it because what the candidate said as a candidate and what the elected President do are often very different from one another.</p><p></p><p>You asked the question earlier regarding Hedges of "how do you predict something that has already happened many times throughout history." You answered the question in pointing out things happen many times in history or stated another way, History repeats itself. The great sages and prophets who lived all through man's history never had some magical power, they often just knew history and the psychology of man as being predictive. The key point for the prophet or sage is to get the masses to believe a certain way and then the outcome is assured. Politics and religion are good historical examples of this mastery.</p><p></p><p>You should read some modern day sorcerers like <a href="https://nathanedgedmu.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/the-founding-fathers-of-pr-ivy-lee-and-edward-bernays/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Ivy Lee and Eddie Bernays</strong></span></a> along with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Opinion_%28book%29" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Walter Lippmann</strong></span></a> who knew how to manipulate the masses. Bernays even went so far as to put the truth in the public's face, yet we still refuse to admit it to ourselves. Quoting Bernays from his 1928' magnum opus <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_%28book%29" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>"Propaganda"</strong></span></a>, he stated:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And another that is equally insightful:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Understanding some of this makes it a bit easier to so call, "predict outcomes" so to speak but then it also makes it so easy to see the men and women who jockey for the highest political offices as mostly empty suits and sock puppets while the masses clamor to them to lead them out of the wilderness and into the promised land. </p><p></p><p>Question: Whose promised land are we clamoring for and why are we clamoring for it?</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1977074, member: 2189"] Pretty early on actually. Just 2 examples, May 2009, [URL='http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090503_buying_brand_obama'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]"Buying Brand Obama"[/B][/COLOR][/URL] and Aug. 2008', [URL='http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080831_curb_your_enthusiasm_for_obama'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]"Curb Your Enthusiasm for Obama"[/B][/COLOR][/URL]. Hedges conclusions of what should be done you may not agree, some I don't agree with either but Chris does offer a critique that shows Obama is not what he portrayed himself to be and that turned out to be fairly true. But in defense of Obama, I find that to be fairly true of every person who runs for President. Thus the argument that something or someone else owns that office and dictates terms to anyone who enters it because what the candidate said as a candidate and what the elected President do are often very different from one another. You asked the question earlier regarding Hedges of "how do you predict something that has already happened many times throughout history." You answered the question in pointing out things happen many times in history or stated another way, History repeats itself. The great sages and prophets who lived all through man's history never had some magical power, they often just knew history and the psychology of man as being predictive. The key point for the prophet or sage is to get the masses to believe a certain way and then the outcome is assured. Politics and religion are good historical examples of this mastery. You should read some modern day sorcerers like [URL='https://nathanedgedmu.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/the-founding-fathers-of-pr-ivy-lee-and-edward-bernays/'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]Ivy Lee and Eddie Bernays[/B][/COLOR][/URL] along with [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Opinion_%28book%29'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]Walter Lippmann[/B][/COLOR][/URL] who knew how to manipulate the masses. Bernays even went so far as to put the truth in the public's face, yet we still refuse to admit it to ourselves. Quoting Bernays from his 1928' magnum opus [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_%28book%29'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]"Propaganda"[/B][/COLOR][/URL], he stated: And another that is equally insightful: Understanding some of this makes it a bit easier to so call, "predict outcomes" so to speak but then it also makes it so easy to see the men and women who jockey for the highest political offices as mostly empty suits and sock puppets while the masses clamor to them to lead them out of the wilderness and into the promised land. Question: Whose promised land are we clamoring for and why are we clamoring for it? ;) [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe Community Center
Current Events
trump 2016
Top
