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<blockquote data-quote="rickyb" data-source="post: 2109743" data-attributes="member: 56035"><p>some of my favorite quotes from the democracy now interview with robert paxton:</p><p></p><p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:</strong> So, what do you think of Donald Trump? Is he a fascist?</p><p></p><p><strong>ROBERT PAXTON:</strong> Well, I think that Donald Trump shows a rather alarming willingness to use fascist themes and fascist styles, which—and the response this gets, the positive response, is alarming.</p><p></p><p>----------</p><p><strong>ROBERT PAXTON:</strong> Well, in the case of Hitler, it took him 13 years. It started in Munich as a minor fringe movement of disgruntled war veterans, and it percolated along.</p><p></p><p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:</strong> That was from World War I.</p><p></p><p><strong>ROBERT PAXTON:</strong> From World War I. This is 1920, early 1920s. In the election of 1924, he did very poorly, for a marginal party. Then you have the Depression in 1929 and 1930. And there are two things: There’s this huge <strong>economic crisis</strong> with millions and millions, tens of millions, unemployed, and there’s also a governmental deadlock. You cannot get any legislation passed without bringing in the social democrats. And the middle—center and right absolutely won’t work with social democrats, although they’re really quite moderate.</p><p></p><p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:</strong> Wait, wait. What are—are you describing the United States, or are you describing—</p><p></p><p><strong>ROBERT PAXTON:</strong> I’m describing—I’m describing the German—the German Weimar Republic really ceased to function as a republic in 1930, because nothing could be passed (in government)...</p><p></p><p>-----------</p><p></p><p><strong>ROBERT PAXTON: ...</strong>The other party that’s growing is the Communist Party. And that’s what’s very different from today. There are two parties that are growing in 1932: the Communist Party and the Nazi Party. And if you don’t bring in the Nazi Party, then maybe it’s the Communists who are going to take over. There’s that dynamic of social panic....</p><p></p><p>--------------</p><p></p><p>so again in modern day greece, the 2 typical parties that people always voted for have lost support, and now you have 2 brand new parties who have either won or are gaining in popularity: syriza the far left anti capitalist party, and golden dawn who uses overt fascism.</p><p></p><p>in america you have bernie sanders who is pretty far left by american standards, im sorta suprised they let him debate but i guess its because he has little to say about military empire. and you have donald trump with his fascist tendencies.</p><p></p><p>many countries are undergoing the same thing where new parties are coming into power who are either far right or far left.</p><p>---------------</p><p></p><p><strong>ROBERT PAXTON:</strong> Well, we don’t know what Donald Trump would do if he were elected president. He’s a thoroughly self-centered and aggressive personality. The danger, it seems to me, is that in a deadlock between Trump and the Congress or Trump and the courts, he would indeed take some kind of nonconstitutional action, and people would be afraid to say no.</p><p></p><p>----------------</p><p></p><p><strong>ROBERT PAXTON:</strong> Well, Donald Trump—Donald Trump’s pandering to the hatreds and violent instincts of some of these crowds is very alarming. ... If Donald Trump puts his followers in colored shirts and they begin to fight in the streets, then you’ve got fascism.</p><p></p><p>-----------------</p><p></p><p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:</strong> Do you think Donald Trump is a danger to America or represents a danger that’s already here?</p><p></p><p><strong>ROBERT PAXTON:</strong> I think that his violent and aggressive temperament installed in the powers of the president of the United States is unpredictable and frightening.</p><p></p><p>----------------</p><p></p><p>so anyways, we will see what happens to your country after the impending economic crisis which the corrupt US government failed to re-regulate. you already have a government which doesnt function, and a history of violence.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rickyb, post: 2109743, member: 56035"] some of my favorite quotes from the democracy now interview with robert paxton: [B]AMY GOODMAN:[/B] So, what do you think of Donald Trump? Is he a fascist? [B]ROBERT PAXTON:[/B] Well, I think that Donald Trump shows a rather alarming willingness to use fascist themes and fascist styles, which—and the response this gets, the positive response, is alarming. ---------- [B]ROBERT PAXTON:[/B] Well, in the case of Hitler, it took him 13 years. It started in Munich as a minor fringe movement of disgruntled war veterans, and it percolated along. [B]AMY GOODMAN:[/B] That was from World War I. [B]ROBERT PAXTON:[/B] From World War I. This is 1920, early 1920s. In the election of 1924, he did very poorly, for a marginal party. Then you have the Depression in 1929 and 1930. And there are two things: There’s this huge [B]economic crisis[/B] with millions and millions, tens of millions, unemployed, and there’s also a governmental deadlock. You cannot get any legislation passed without bringing in the social democrats. And the middle—center and right absolutely won’t work with social democrats, although they’re really quite moderate. [B]AMY GOODMAN:[/B] Wait, wait. What are—are you describing the United States, or are you describing— [B]ROBERT PAXTON:[/B] I’m describing—I’m describing the German—the German Weimar Republic really ceased to function as a republic in 1930, because nothing could be passed (in government)... ----------- [B]ROBERT PAXTON: ...[/B]The other party that’s growing is the Communist Party. And that’s what’s very different from today. There are two parties that are growing in 1932: the Communist Party and the Nazi Party. And if you don’t bring in the Nazi Party, then maybe it’s the Communists who are going to take over. There’s that dynamic of social panic.... -------------- so again in modern day greece, the 2 typical parties that people always voted for have lost support, and now you have 2 brand new parties who have either won or are gaining in popularity: syriza the far left anti capitalist party, and golden dawn who uses overt fascism. in america you have bernie sanders who is pretty far left by american standards, im sorta suprised they let him debate but i guess its because he has little to say about military empire. and you have donald trump with his fascist tendencies. many countries are undergoing the same thing where new parties are coming into power who are either far right or far left. --------------- [B]ROBERT PAXTON:[/B] Well, we don’t know what Donald Trump would do if he were elected president. He’s a thoroughly self-centered and aggressive personality. The danger, it seems to me, is that in a deadlock between Trump and the Congress or Trump and the courts, he would indeed take some kind of nonconstitutional action, and people would be afraid to say no. ---------------- [B]ROBERT PAXTON:[/B] Well, Donald Trump—Donald Trump’s pandering to the hatreds and violent instincts of some of these crowds is very alarming. ... If Donald Trump puts his followers in colored shirts and they begin to fight in the streets, then you’ve got fascism. ----------------- [B]AMY GOODMAN:[/B] Do you think Donald Trump is a danger to America or represents a danger that’s already here? [B]ROBERT PAXTON:[/B] I think that his violent and aggressive temperament installed in the powers of the president of the United States is unpredictable and frightening. ---------------- so anyways, we will see what happens to your country after the impending economic crisis which the corrupt US government failed to re-regulate. you already have a government which doesnt function, and a history of violence. [/QUOTE]
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