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<blockquote data-quote="bbsam" data-source="post: 833633" data-attributes="member: 22662"><p>Since you are done with the soap box, I will take my turn:</p><p> </p><p>Who do you think you are? Why would quoting scripture in an internet chat persuade where mega-churches, televangelists, main-stream religion, and personal experience have failed for people? People have their reasons for believing and for not believing and your quotations will do little to change those realities. And you feel mocked, made fun of? So what. Are you on a quest to "save" souls? Why does it matter to you if others believe as you do? Personally, I too am a Christian and I find arguments against religion to fall flat and to me seem sophomoric at best. But it is God who convinced me, not Billy Graham, or upsgrunt, or my father who happened to be a Lutheran minister. People have their own journeys to travel and God is revealed in any of a myriad of ways. So in short, we share our "experience, strength, and hope" with others, not that we transform their lives to our own glory, but that we bear witness to what God can and will do. How can it matter to me if others choose to deny? I know. My faith is not contingent upon their conversion. So it is at this juncture that I would suggest that quoting scripture as a debating tool is nearly useless if all parties involved do not agree to it's legitimacy. It would be like quoting Dr. Seuss in federal court "...a person's a person no matter how small.--Horton Hears a Who".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bbsam, post: 833633, member: 22662"] Since you are done with the soap box, I will take my turn: Who do you think you are? Why would quoting scripture in an internet chat persuade where mega-churches, televangelists, main-stream religion, and personal experience have failed for people? People have their reasons for believing and for not believing and your quotations will do little to change those realities. And you feel mocked, made fun of? So what. Are you on a quest to "save" souls? Why does it matter to you if others believe as you do? Personally, I too am a Christian and I find arguments against religion to fall flat and to me seem sophomoric at best. But it is God who convinced me, not Billy Graham, or upsgrunt, or my father who happened to be a Lutheran minister. People have their own journeys to travel and God is revealed in any of a myriad of ways. So in short, we share our "experience, strength, and hope" with others, not that we transform their lives to our own glory, but that we bear witness to what God can and will do. How can it matter to me if others choose to deny? I know. My faith is not contingent upon their conversion. So it is at this juncture that I would suggest that quoting scripture as a debating tool is nearly useless if all parties involved do not agree to it's legitimacy. It would be like quoting Dr. Seuss in federal court "...a person's a person no matter how small.--Horton Hears a Who". [/QUOTE]
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